New member looking for wheels

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1979350SL
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New member looking for wheels

Post by 1979350SL » Sun 30 Sep, 2018 5:29 pm

Hi all, new member having just acquired a 79 350SL. Hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I’m after a set of 15”, 15 hole wheels. Locally if possible in the Melbourne area. Thanks!

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Re: New member looking for wheels

Post by CraigB » Sun 30 Sep, 2018 8:47 pm

Welcome. I have a set in Adelaide but I am sure you will find a set closer to home - not that rare and pretty sure the W126 wheels fit.
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1979350SL
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Re: New member looking for wheels

Post by 1979350SL » Tue 09 Oct, 2018 3:18 pm

Hi Craig, Having no luck sourcing a set up here. I have a set I just refinished without realising they were only 14" and not 15" so my nice new tyres don't fit. Would you be willing to sell your set and I freight them up?

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Re: New member looking for wheels

Post by CraigB » Tue 09 Oct, 2018 7:50 pm

Yes for sure. I will email to discuss finer detail and what i have and freight ideas. I just make the point here (in case someone later is thinking the same thing) to check you know that originally your car I am sure would have had 14" Bundt wheels, as used from early 70's until mid 80's. I'm guessing you prefer the later 560/380SL look and/or want to run 15's but I just wanted to check.
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Re: New member looking for wheels

Post by CraigB » Tue 09 Oct, 2018 8:43 pm

Actually, I think i just worked out what you are saying. What is commonly called a bundt wheel actually had 15 holes. This link is what people normally refer to as a '15 hole wheel and the later W107s had them:
https://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/20 ... Y9A3Y81EM/

15" Bundt do exist but about the only way you will get them is via the reproduced ones being sold by the classic centre in USA for I think $500+ per wheel.

But i have those later wheels if interested.
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Re: New member looking for wheels

Post by 1979350SL » Tue 09 Oct, 2018 10:47 pm

Hi Craig,

It’s the manhole flat front style 15’s i’m after. I have the same style wheel i just had reconfitioned but turns out they’re only 14” and not the 15” i need. The car’s currently sitting on 18’s which isn’t the look i’m after

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Re: New member looking for wheels

Post by CraigB » Wed 10 Oct, 2018 10:10 am

OK, so after 20 or more years on benz forums across the world I think you will find 'bundt wheel' is the term that people will understand. I have heard 'manhole' before. Your car would have definitely had 14" on it, so you have the correct wheels on your car. The 15 was very rare indeed and I believe only appear from special order. I have never seen a set for sale in Australia and I would be shocked if you are able to find a set but see what others say. But a year or so ago the classic centre in california offered a remake of these wheels due to demand but they were $560 US on release per wheel. I think they have been reduced now to about 500 but thats still $700 of our dollars per wheel, plus freight, plus import duty, plus whatever exchange rate fees etc depending on how you pay.

I have just googled "350sl images" and if you do the same, every one of those images I can see with bundt wheels, I am sure is a 14" wheel. I hope that makes sense. To my knowledge the change to 15", except for odd examples, came with those flatter looking wheels that are commonly referred to as '15 hole wheels". Hope that clears that up. Did someone suggest to you that you should have 15" wheels? I think if you check your handbook or google specs you will find that this is wrong and your car would have had 14.
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Re: New member looking for wheels

Post by tsharkey » Thu 11 Oct, 2018 5:12 pm

They are being reproduced by a number of manufacturers for about $300 to $500 a wheel - I'd love a set but (so I am told) the original Fusch castings are far superior to Centra, ATS alloys . Also, I get can 14" for next to nix, so not really prepared to shell out more than what I paid for my last Turbo Diesel for a set.

Just go to us eBay and enter 15" Barock and you'll get the picture. There are plenty of other variants (non Centra, ATS) that have German TÜV gutachten (I gather that's an important quality / safety threshold certificate).
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Re: New member looking for wheels

Post by CraigB » Thu 11 Oct, 2018 6:51 pm

I got the impression from the statement
I have a set I just refinished without realising they were only 14" and not 15" so my nice new tyres don't fit.
that the guy was trying to put the right wheels on the car and got them finished and then thought they should have been 15. Still, not sure what all the fuss is with the 15's, you can still get reasonable 14" tyres and while i haven't done a 'parallel sample' on a track, I reckon for most driving you wouldn't notice. The main difference i have noticed between cars is the height of the tyre wall and I reckon there is proportionately more lost in ride quality than gained in handling..... but each to their own! I do like how a 16" penta fills the guard on my AMG compared to the original 14's it left the factory with but then i probably prefer the bundt on a nice standared gen 1 sedan.

My understanding is the original wheels with the 108 part number were actually forged and later 126 number cast, or something like that.
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Re: New member looking for wheels

Post by Ivanerrol » Sat 13 Oct, 2018 4:12 pm

You need to be careful with the 14 inch 15 hole wheels (Manhole covers). Some of them are E class offset. You will need wheels from an S class or SL.
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Re: New member looking for wheels

Post by CraigB » Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:46 pm

Reference to E-class etc and 'manhole' (manholes where i live don't look like any of these wheels!) - I googled images for 'manhole mercedes wheels' and it came up with mostly ones that look like the wheel which I understood were mainly called '15 hole'. So I'm just going to double check with an image, and if this is what you are looking for in 15 inch I have some in the right offset (because they are on my SLC).
15 hole wheel.jpg
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Re: New member looking for wheels

Post by Djenka018 » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 7:38 pm

I love those wheels and I had them on my SLC for a short period.
Would look very attractive if they were in lower offset (seating a bit more outwards) to give it a bit more aggressive look

Most unlearned enthusiasts ditch those for next to nothing and upgrade to modern look wheels on their 126.
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