Switch and wiper woes

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PeterQ
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Switch and wiper woes

Post by PeterQ » Fri 03 Aug, 2018 5:17 pm

My indicator stalk would not lodge in the right turn position, you had to hold it on to keep the indicators going. So, I've replaced the switch and now I have no wipers. So I put back the old switch - still no wipers. Any ideas - common errors? I am trying this in the shed, stationary, engine on - possibly it "knows" there's no water on the screen, but the washers don't work either.

A fuse diagram would be good - I'm not convinced the one I have is actually for my car (2003 CLK500 A209) - in case I shorted something, but given the air bag had to come out I did have the battery disconnected.
2003 CLK500 convertible, latest successor to:
2006 W164 ML350 - 1999 S430L - Audi A6 C5 V8
Holden Crewman Cross 6 - Ford Territory - Holden Commodore VZ 6 speed Ute
Mercedes 450SEL 6.9 - Ssangyong Musso 3.2 - Mercedes 450SLC
and a litany of others...

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Re: Switch and wiper woes

Post by John Green » Fri 03 Aug, 2018 9:34 pm

Hi Peter, there are a few differant indicator/wiper combination switches for these. Very important to order by VIN number. I would suggest that before you risk electrical me-hem, that you make sure it is the right part.
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Re: Switch and wiper woes

Post by PeterQ » Sat 04 Aug, 2018 8:06 pm

John - the part numbers on the old and new are the same. My planned afternoon was interrupted by a customer, but I did get time to check *every* fuse under the bonnet and in the dash at the driver's end. All OK, I'll check those in the boot tomorrow morning. I will also be checking how the push in connectors in the various switch units on the steering column fit together, make sure they're all good. If that doesn't help I'm stuck - it's 90k through heavy rain to the nearest MB place.
2003 CLK500 convertible, latest successor to:
2006 W164 ML350 - 1999 S430L - Audi A6 C5 V8
Holden Crewman Cross 6 - Ford Territory - Holden Commodore VZ 6 speed Ute
Mercedes 450SEL 6.9 - Ssangyong Musso 3.2 - Mercedes 450SLC
and a litany of others...

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Re: Switch and wiper woes

Post by PeterQ » Sun 05 Aug, 2018 7:56 pm

Good news - I have wipers again. Bad news - don't really know how. I pulled and checked and refitted every fuse, none blown. As previously, I pulled everything off of the column again, put the new switch back in, re-assembled with lots of care, and voila it works.
2003 CLK500 convertible, latest successor to:
2006 W164 ML350 - 1999 S430L - Audi A6 C5 V8
Holden Crewman Cross 6 - Ford Territory - Holden Commodore VZ 6 speed Ute
Mercedes 450SEL 6.9 - Ssangyong Musso 3.2 - Mercedes 450SLC
and a litany of others...

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Re: Switch and wiper woes

Post by John Green » Tue 07 Aug, 2018 7:43 am

PeterQ wrote:
Sun 05 Aug, 2018 7:56 pm
Good news - I have wipers again. Bad news - don't really know how. I pulled and checked and refitted every fuse, none blown. As previously, I pulled everything off of the column again, put the new switch back in, re-assembled with lots of care, and voila it works.
Maybe your car has Lucas electrics? :dance: :dance:
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Re: Switch and wiper woes

Post by PeteGong » Mon 13 Aug, 2018 7:08 am

Hi Peter, I have the same problem with my 2003 CLK 500 convertible i.e. right hand indicator won't hold down. I too need to replace the switch and would be grateful for the part number and where you obtained it?

I am slightly confused though. You mentioned that your car is a 2003 CLK500 convertible A209. My 2003 CLK 500 convertible has VIN WDB2094752T008358 which suggests it is a W 209? Is your VIN an A 209?

Help.....

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Re: Switch and wiper woes

Post by PeterQ » Wed 15 Aug, 2018 10:03 pm

The reply I posted a day or so ago is not showing now, so...
A209 is the convertible; C209, the coupe. Generically both W209.


I got my switch from Pace BM in Perth, don't have a part number readily to hand though.
2003 CLK500 convertible, latest successor to:
2006 W164 ML350 - 1999 S430L - Audi A6 C5 V8
Holden Crewman Cross 6 - Ford Territory - Holden Commodore VZ 6 speed Ute
Mercedes 450SEL 6.9 - Ssangyong Musso 3.2 - Mercedes 450SLC
and a litany of others...

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Re: Switch and wiper woes

Post by Manya3084 » Sun 02 Sep, 2018 10:01 pm

My stalk is also on the fritz. Doesn't hold when you turn right.

I've just ordered this from Aliexpress, i'll let everyone know how I go once it arrives.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32888 ... 3c00K4n31z

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Re: Switch and wiper woes

Post by PeteGong » Mon 03 Sep, 2018 4:00 pm

Me too...... I was able to source a genuine MB indicator switch for $135 and an air vent stepper motor for $75.

As a newbie MB CLK 500 owner, I am a bit surprised at the failure rate of some parts that typically would not occur on some well-known reliable Far Eastern cars.

I am clearly naive, but if you pay a premium, you should expect a premium product........'just sayin

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Re: Switch and wiper woes

Post by Manya3084 » Mon 03 Sep, 2018 7:35 pm

Everything will break/wear in time, however, i'm not going to replace premium parts when I only paid $5900 for the whole car.

Currently things that have worn/broken up to 248,000Kms. (I bought it with 221,000Kms)

Rear drivers regulator failed $17 (Israel, New cog & wire for the regulator. Very frustrating when installing it is but satisfying once completed)
Water Pump $75 (China)
Radiator, preventative maintenance $185 (China)
Radiator Cap $7 (China)
Drivers Seat Belt frayed/not retracting $150 (2nd Hand passenger belt from the USA)
Drivers Wheel bearing seal failed, water contamination $70 (China, did both front and passenger side for that price)
Indicator Stalk $135 (China, Time will tell)
Auto Trans Conductor Plate $120 (China, Gaskets/Filter/Plug seal)
Backlight in the Dash board cluster stopped working at night (Used packing foam & hot glue to apply light pressure to the PCB, Been fine for the last 4 months)

My Brand new issue as of yesterday, my key is no longer recognised in the ignition. Still locks and unlocks the car just fine. Lucky I have a spare. The fix...well, still yet to find anyone genuine that will repair the key for a reasonable price. I might just buy a Hot air re-work station and a 2nd hand key, then transplant the chip onto it. Buying the equipment is cheaper than the service...

Anyway, with all the issues above, I still am happy with the car.

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Re: Switch and wiper woes

Post by Ivanerrol » Mon 03 Sep, 2018 9:41 pm

Indicator stalks have been a problem since the early nineties.
I still have a W202/W210 somewhere. Bought it from the U.K.

I took one apart. Plastic bits failed generally due to gunk inside.
W211 - E240
W204 - C280
Departed
W202 - C200, C180, C180
W126 - 380SE , 380SE (Ex SA Import), 560SEL
W124 - 300e, 260e (ex Japan)
W111 220s (Indonesia) 4 speed manual column shift
W123 230
W116 450SEL
W140 420SEL
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