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GST on imports

Post by Aegean » Mon 02 Jul, 2018 10:16 pm

Having checked eBay since July 1, GST is now being added at checkout. I thought it was law that GST needed to be included in the selling price, however that was not the purpose of the post. I needed some one-way vacuum valves for the central locking. Local price (on eBay) is $68.40 including shipping. Best price on eBay from overseas is USD 6.58, with USD 9.40 postage + GST = A$16.92 plus PayPal's lousy exchange rate, so you can assume around A$17.00 each. Still a long way from $68.40. However, I decided to search a but further and found them at RockAuto for USD 3.03, so I bought 10 of them. All up, including shipping and converted to AUD, it was 65.39 - still less than the cost of one in Australia. Interestingly, RockAuto did not add GST to the order, so it will be interesting to see if it is held on arrival for verification that GST has been paid. Irrespective, another $6.54 is not going to break the bank and I have the satisfaction of having saved $612.07 - and they wonder why people buy from overseas. I'm sure that you can find them cheaper locally, but who has the time to call around.
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Re: GST on imports

Post by CraigB » Wed 04 Jul, 2018 10:19 am

Thanks for that, I had wondered how that would all map out. My recollection from reading the gov website, it will be sellers responsibility to organise GST. What i imagined is that for most suppliers they would think it is all too hard for the relatively small amount of Oz trade and just not sell to us anymore or only via ebay that has a system. Can't help wondering how many resources involved in now chasing Rock auto etc or how they handle that stuff. I have no problem at all in paying GST (as you are suggesting too) but as with most things in govt they never seem to take into account the costs of collecting and managing things. If it was your private business you would be thinking what are the costs vs risk but govt seems to work by politicians coming up with an idea that they think sounds good and it gets implemented without looking into cost benefit. Having been closely involved with 3 green army teams over the last couple of years, I can assure you there are cheaper and more effective ways to help the environment and/or job train. Huge costs but it sounded good.

Not to say they might have this all covered nice and efficiently but I would have thought some sort of system like where the banks take currency exchange fees out of your account. If your tax file number is linked to your account and to be able to import that number is included and they can debit etc or email bill and get you at tax time if you don't pay etc. I'm just freeballing ideas off the top of my head in 30 seconds and no doubt problems, but point being is i just wish govt would look at the costs of how they operate...... including the health system i have become closely associated with of late!

I'm picturing a shiny new building or floor with a flash sign 'GST on imports' with a hierarchy of high paid managers and smaller team of young 'indians' with their feet up and playing on their telephones with a big pile of paperwork in their intray!
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Re: GST on imports

Post by Aegean » Wed 04 Jul, 2018 10:49 am

Interestingly, they sent it via Fedex (cost US$15.99) so will see if they are tasked with collecting the GST. If so, I dare say that won't last too long once they realise how difficult it will be to manage - not to mention how full their warehouse is going to become waiting on customers to pay.
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Re: GST on imports

Post by aleks001 » Wed 04 Jul, 2018 2:02 pm

Most likely nothing will happen and you will get your items. Customs is not equipped with being able to hold and deal with absolutely every item that comes into Australia. From my understanding customs wont even be inspecting the items. They just want OS sellers to "self report" and if they don't there is pretty much zero they can do about it. It seems to be mainly for the multi-million/billion organisations, I doubt they will bother with some random car part companies from the US that a handful of people use.

Let us know how you go with your item but I'm pretty certain you will get it and there will be no gst and no one will be the wiser.

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Re: GST on imports

Post by Aegean » Tue 10 Jul, 2018 10:44 am

Package delivered today and no request for payment of GST.
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Re: GST on imports

Post by aleks001 » Tue 10 Jul, 2018 8:47 pm

:wav:
It’s just not a law worth enforcing (financially). It’s really there to just try and grab some rxtra money from big companies. I’m sure a random person will get stung here and there but 99% will never notice it. Also i think auspost shopmate the us mail forwarder is charging GST. Guess who I’m never using again.

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Re: GST on imports

Post by CraigB » Wed 11 Jul, 2018 2:26 pm

I wonder about impacts on ebay too who i understand will collect it. I just purchased a part for an italian car from a place in Australia on ebay but was for sale in US dollars. Had to pay via paypal, who I understand are not necessarily that fair about their exchange rates. In hindsight i wondered if i googled the company name, rang them and did a bank transfer outside ebay, how much would i have saved? I agree it would seem they are looking to pick up those easy dollars via the 'easy shopping' options that people will still use.
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Re: GST on imports

Post by Ivanerrol » Wed 11 Jul, 2018 6:39 pm

I bought some bicycle parts on 16th June from China.
They were posted same day and arrived in Australia on the 22nd of June.
Been sitting in customs since. :dontknow:
I'm wondering about the GST implications even though items bought pre July.
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Re: GST on imports

Post by Christo C » Wed 11 Jul, 2018 7:04 pm

I’m wondering why a Mercedes owner/driver would be seen on a bicycle!
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Re: GST on imports

Post by Chai » Wed 11 Jul, 2018 7:35 pm

Christo. Please be respectful here!
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Re: GST on imports

Post by Ivanerrol » Wed 11 Jul, 2018 8:24 pm

Christo C wrote:
Wed 11 Jul, 2018 7:04 pm
I’m wondering why a Mercedes owner/driver would be seen on a bicycle!

A Mercedes owner will be seen on a bicycle because of doctors orders. - see CraigB's posts.

The trouble with bicycles is that you go from an exercise bike to lycra and a race road bike.
I'm entering the 100Km section of around the bay this year.

I'm not really one of those mamil's (middle aged male in lycra) - more an obbil (old big bloke in lycra).

And if you think that getting spare parts for cars was difficult, bicycles are in their own league. Standardization is virtually non existent.

As a side issue. I went from 110 kilograms to 95. But have since crept back up to 100. Haven't felt so good for years healthwise.
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Re: GST on imports

Post by Christo C » Wed 11 Jul, 2018 8:34 pm

Don’t get me wrong folks, fair suck of the saveloy, I own a bicycle, but I’m never seen on it!
Actual exercise just wears out the body.
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Re: GST on imports

Post by Honey500 » Wed 11 Jul, 2018 11:48 pm

Much like driving a car wears out the engine.....hutcthat doesn't tend to stop any of us.

I too invested in a bike to try and avoid some of those lifestyle diseases. I skipped the exercise bike bit and went straight to an almost race bike. Surprisingly not bad to commute on if the weather allows it.
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Post by Honey500 » Wed 11 Jul, 2018 11:49 pm

Also skipped the lycra...bosses orders!
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Re: GST on imports

Post by Chai » Thu 12 Jul, 2018 7:04 pm

Read the papers recently about some overseas eCommerce websites are still not collecting GST.
The article also mentioned that the courier company is not expected to collect GST and it'll be up to the ATO to pursue the overseas seller.
GST is not applicable if the overseas purchase was made before July 2018.
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Re: GST on imports

Post by Christo C » Fri 13 Jul, 2018 9:07 am

Chai wrote:
Thu 12 Jul, 2018 7:04 pm
.... to collect GST and it'll be up to the ATO to pursue the overseas seller.
Ha Ha with that concept - the ATO has enough difficulty pursuing in this Country!
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