The Green Beast - or what's left of it

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by CraigB » Sat 10 Nov, 2018 2:29 pm

It is dented or leaking or rusted? If its dented your panel guy could work on it, but with motorbike tanks that usually involves cutting part of it open to get in with tools and then weld it back again. Otherwise just a clean - if you pull sender etc. you should be able to have a good look in there. One of those spot welded tools to put a slide hammer on might work - I think the heat ok but have to be careful with sparks etc. Also they have those glue gun kit things with a frame that can pull things - but haven't tried one and steel fairly heavy in tank i think.
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by drew56cus » Mon 12 Nov, 2018 7:40 pm

Eagerly awaiting news and pics of the beast on its way to the shop...
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Tue 13 Nov, 2018 11:32 am

The Green Beast is currently residing at Meadows, SA!

I need to get some photos off of the kids ipads! I was too busy loading it and talking with Rick.

First things first, a massive thank you to Evan who gave up his entire Sunday to get the rear axle back in. We had a few dramas along the way that involved multiple attempts, living and learning, swearing a little bit, some scratched paint but ultimately a big high five between us for a job well done. I couldn't have done it without Evan's help, so a big thank you sir!

see some photos below, it all went together ok, tricky geometry on that rear axle meant that Evan was often working two jacks to get the trailing arms level to enable that front rubber bush to go on square and neat. We had difficulty with the passenger side spring lower rubber that I will have to revisit when it comes back from the body shop, but's it all secure and rolling back and forth - as well as onto a trailer.

I'll post driving away photos shortly

Don't know why that second photo is upside down, it's not when I open it normally :wall:
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Tue 13 Nov, 2018 7:15 pm

Here’s a couple of happy snaps. I think the kids were stoked to see the back of it. It looks half ok in the photos!
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1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by edenning » Tue 13 Nov, 2018 7:49 pm

Great photos of the Green Beast on it's way. Pleased to help! Will it come back as a Blue Beast?
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Tue 13 Nov, 2018 8:00 pm

Blue beast for sure, something like this one I hope
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1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Fri 23 Nov, 2018 9:01 am

I missed your reply sorry Craig

The outside of the tank is ok, I can strip and repaint, it was more about the inside and the swirl pot.


The panel chap has also asked if it's possible to source a new boot lid as this one is not in great condition. I know that's a bit of a stretch to find a coupe boot lid. They certainly exist on the internet overseas, but condition is always a bit of a question mark. Also the front passenger fender is nothing special. Rick said they can do something with both panels, but if they are possible to source in better condition that would be ideal.

Would anyone know where to even ask? I don't know of any wreckers/spare parts places that might even have such things. I've tried chris from MB Parts in Melbourne but no joy so far.

Ron, do you know of any in Brisbane?
1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
2003 Porsche 911 - had to see what all the fuss was about

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by sebada » Sat 24 Nov, 2018 2:59 am

Hi Eddie, glad to see that the project is waling on the right direction.

My couoe front left fender is also in very bad shape, are the W111 sedans and the W108 fenders the same as the W111 coupe or they are different ?.

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by Mercmad » Sun 25 Nov, 2018 2:49 pm

How bad is your boot lid? I have one that has had the bottom edge cut off to remove rust. A good panel guy can fix it easily. I don't need it as mine is OK on my Coupe, It's going to cost a bit to get it to you though. So it's yours if you want it...

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by Mercmad » Sun 25 Nov, 2018 2:59 pm

Top side ,the spots are wear rust convertor was applied ,easily cleaned off for painting.
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Bottom edge. This is very easily fixed .I'd probably make the inside first ,then make a peice for the skin and weld it on,then finsish. the frame
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Inside,a bit scratched from being stored .
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by CraigB » Sun 25 Nov, 2018 7:22 pm

It would be interesting to see how much it is via EGO. I think from what Eddie was showing me is that the car has been rear ended at some stage and has buckled the boot a little, plus rust etc. I'm not sure if hinges are also a potential issue for damage. In this case a nice straight lid may be worth the effort - the other lid could potentially offer metal for repairing that one - I can't recall how much rust.

Anyway, I'm sure Justin will reply.
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Mon 26 Nov, 2018 8:34 am

Hey guys, thanks for the replies.

Sebastian, the sedan and coupes are different, I've been down that path already. fenders, boot, bonnets are all unique to the coupe, although they look very similar!

Thanks Ron, that could work. The panel guys was keen for a straight one as the car has been back ended in the past and the boot was bent as well as rusty. I don't think it was the rust that bothered him, so I will show him these photos and get back to you.

The rust on mine is identical to that, whole back edge, inside and outside.
1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by sebada » Mon 26 Nov, 2018 11:30 pm

Thanks Eddie,

I suspected they were not the same but the difference are the dimensions, fitment,etc. ?. I'm thinking if a W111 sedan or W108 fender have the same headlight shape, let say, and I could use them as a donor part to fix the coupe fender. My left fender was obviously damaged and the repair is terribel, I can't get the headlight to fit properly.

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by Mercmad » Sat 01 Dec, 2018 5:00 pm

The heqdLights interchange but thats all. Everything else is a different shape. :coffee2:

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by sebada » Tue 11 Dec, 2018 12:39 am

So I can use the W111 sedan or W108 headlight part of the fender to fix mine ?. Thanks

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Thu 20 Dec, 2018 11:32 am

Hey Guys

I managed to visit the panel shop this morning and there has been progress. But firstly, we discussed the boot lid that Mercmad has. Thanks Ron for the offer, but the panel guy will stick with the devil we know, he is going to try and fix what we've got first as they are not dissimilar.

Sebastian, I think mine has a headlight from another car grafted in. It fits, but looks terrible. If someone could do a better weld in job it might be an ok answer.

I'll send through a few pics shortly
1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
2003 Porsche 911 - had to see what all the fuss was about

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Thu 20 Dec, 2018 11:36 am

Photos below, all the rear sections are just mocked in for now, held in place with tek screws. The guys found a little more hidden rust in the rear chassis rails that has to be dealt with and you can see all the issues around the rear windscreen and boot lip now that the window is removed and the body has been blasted. The guys said there was a lot of little sections that require work and it will take some time, but all fixable and the body appears to be straight enough, no major accident damage to deal with even though there is evidence of accidents at the front and back of the car.

These are in no particular order

All the best
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1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
2003 Porsche 911 - had to see what all the fuss was about

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by T-Modell » Thu 20 Dec, 2018 5:29 pm

Great,
looks like a car now! Wish you good luck and progress for this!

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by sebada » Fri 21 Dec, 2018 4:32 am

Great, great Eddie.

I'm very happy that your project is walkingon the right direction !!

Merry christmas for everyone :occasion5:

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by Mercmad » Sun 06 Jan, 2019 10:20 pm

I was thinking the other day that i might fix my spare boot lid. Where you car has rust is pretty normal unfortunately. Some were a lot worse and were made into convertibles.
My own coupe was only rusty in the bottom 4 inches ...of the whole car. :laughing6: Salt on the roads in Pennsylvania made a pretty ugly mess .

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