The Green Beast - or what's left of it

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by CraigB » Sat 10 Nov, 2018 2:29 pm

It is dented or leaking or rusted? If its dented your panel guy could work on it, but with motorbike tanks that usually involves cutting part of it open to get in with tools and then weld it back again. Otherwise just a clean - if you pull sender etc. you should be able to have a good look in there. One of those spot welded tools to put a slide hammer on might work - I think the heat ok but have to be careful with sparks etc. Also they have those glue gun kit things with a frame that can pull things - but haven't tried one and steel fairly heavy in tank i think.
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Post by drew56cus » Mon 12 Nov, 2018 7:40 pm

Eagerly awaiting news and pics of the beast on its way to the shop...
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Post by eddie » Tue 13 Nov, 2018 11:32 am

The Green Beast is currently residing at Meadows, SA!

I need to get some photos off of the kids ipads! I was too busy loading it and talking with Rick.

First things first, a massive thank you to Evan who gave up his entire Sunday to get the rear axle back in. We had a few dramas along the way that involved multiple attempts, living and learning, swearing a little bit, some scratched paint but ultimately a big high five between us for a job well done. I couldn't have done it without Evan's help, so a big thank you sir!

see some photos below, it all went together ok, tricky geometry on that rear axle meant that Evan was often working two jacks to get the trailing arms level to enable that front rubber bush to go on square and neat. We had difficulty with the passenger side spring lower rubber that I will have to revisit when it comes back from the body shop, but's it all secure and rolling back and forth - as well as onto a trailer.

I'll post driving away photos shortly

Don't know why that second photo is upside down, it's not when I open it normally :wall:
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Post by eddie » Tue 13 Nov, 2018 7:15 pm

Here’s a couple of happy snaps. I think the kids were stoked to see the back of it. It looks half ok in the photos!
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1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
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1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by edenning » Tue 13 Nov, 2018 7:49 pm

Great photos of the Green Beast on it's way. Pleased to help! Will it come back as a Blue Beast?
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Post by eddie » Tue 13 Nov, 2018 8:00 pm

Blue beast for sure, something like this one I hope
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Post by eddie » Fri 23 Nov, 2018 9:01 am

I missed your reply sorry Craig

The outside of the tank is ok, I can strip and repaint, it was more about the inside and the swirl pot.


The panel chap has also asked if it's possible to source a new boot lid as this one is not in great condition. I know that's a bit of a stretch to find a coupe boot lid. They certainly exist on the internet overseas, but condition is always a bit of a question mark. Also the front passenger fender is nothing special. Rick said they can do something with both panels, but if they are possible to source in better condition that would be ideal.

Would anyone know where to even ask? I don't know of any wreckers/spare parts places that might even have such things. I've tried chris from MB Parts in Melbourne but no joy so far.

Ron, do you know of any in Brisbane?
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1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
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1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by sebada » Sat 24 Nov, 2018 2:59 am

Hi Eddie, glad to see that the project is waling on the right direction.

My couoe front left fender is also in very bad shape, are the W111 sedans and the W108 fenders the same as the W111 coupe or they are different ?.

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by Mercmad » Sun 25 Nov, 2018 2:49 pm

How bad is your boot lid? I have one that has had the bottom edge cut off to remove rust. A good panel guy can fix it easily. I don't need it as mine is OK on my Coupe, It's going to cost a bit to get it to you though. So it's yours if you want it...

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Post by Mercmad » Sun 25 Nov, 2018 2:59 pm

Top side ,the spots are wear rust convertor was applied ,easily cleaned off for painting.
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Bottom edge. This is very easily fixed .I'd probably make the inside first ,then make a peice for the skin and weld it on,then finsish. the frame
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Inside,a bit scratched from being stored .
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by CraigB » Sun 25 Nov, 2018 7:22 pm

It would be interesting to see how much it is via EGO. I think from what Eddie was showing me is that the car has been rear ended at some stage and has buckled the boot a little, plus rust etc. I'm not sure if hinges are also a potential issue for damage. In this case a nice straight lid may be worth the effort - the other lid could potentially offer metal for repairing that one - I can't recall how much rust.

Anyway, I'm sure Justin will reply.
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Mon 26 Nov, 2018 8:34 am

Hey guys, thanks for the replies.

Sebastian, the sedan and coupes are different, I've been down that path already. fenders, boot, bonnets are all unique to the coupe, although they look very similar!

Thanks Ron, that could work. The panel guys was keen for a straight one as the car has been back ended in the past and the boot was bent as well as rusty. I don't think it was the rust that bothered him, so I will show him these photos and get back to you.

The rust on mine is identical to that, whole back edge, inside and outside.
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by sebada » Mon 26 Nov, 2018 11:30 pm

Thanks Eddie,

I suspected they were not the same but the difference are the dimensions, fitment,etc. ?. I'm thinking if a W111 sedan or W108 fender have the same headlight shape, let say, and I could use them as a donor part to fix the coupe fender. My left fender was obviously damaged and the repair is terribel, I can't get the headlight to fit properly.

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Post by Mercmad » Sat 01 Dec, 2018 5:00 pm

The heqdLights interchange but thats all. Everything else is a different shape. :coffee2:

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by sebada » Tue 11 Dec, 2018 12:39 am

So I can use the W111 sedan or W108 headlight part of the fender to fix mine ?. Thanks

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Thu 20 Dec, 2018 11:32 am

Hey Guys

I managed to visit the panel shop this morning and there has been progress. But firstly, we discussed the boot lid that Mercmad has. Thanks Ron for the offer, but the panel guy will stick with the devil we know, he is going to try and fix what we've got first as they are not dissimilar.

Sebastian, I think mine has a headlight from another car grafted in. It fits, but looks terrible. If someone could do a better weld in job it might be an ok answer.

I'll send through a few pics shortly
1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Thu 20 Dec, 2018 11:36 am

Photos below, all the rear sections are just mocked in for now, held in place with tek screws. The guys found a little more hidden rust in the rear chassis rails that has to be dealt with and you can see all the issues around the rear windscreen and boot lip now that the window is removed and the body has been blasted. The guys said there was a lot of little sections that require work and it will take some time, but all fixable and the body appears to be straight enough, no major accident damage to deal with even though there is evidence of accidents at the front and back of the car.

These are in no particular order

All the best
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1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by T-Modell » Thu 20 Dec, 2018 5:29 pm

Great,
looks like a car now! Wish you good luck and progress for this!

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by sebada » Fri 21 Dec, 2018 4:32 am

Great, great Eddie.

I'm very happy that your project is walkingon the right direction !!

Merry christmas for everyone :occasion5:

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by Mercmad » Sun 06 Jan, 2019 10:20 pm

I was thinking the other day that i might fix my spare boot lid. Where you car has rust is pretty normal unfortunately. Some were a lot worse and were made into convertibles.
My own coupe was only rusty in the bottom 4 inches ...of the whole car. :laughing6: Salt on the roads in Pennsylvania made a pretty ugly mess .

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Sun 10 Feb, 2019 4:05 pm

Hey Ron, would the boot lid of yours still be on offer. Rick has investigated mine further and thinks there’s a bit more wrong with the inside frame than first thought. He asked me to ask if it’s still with you and could we make arrangements to transport to adelaide?

Thanks in advance, I’m going down to see the car on Tuesday so will post some updates then.

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1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Wed 13 Feb, 2019 12:24 pm

Hi OzBenzers

I managed to go down to the panel shop this week for a bit of an update. Work is progressing well, and there are some photos below of where they are at.

Bad news was they have to go back over some of my welds between the floor panel and the chassis rail below as I didn't get adequate penetration with my little welder. It's easily fixed, but will take a bit of time/money.

Good news was that they've managed to rectify a few issues with the doors and in particular the drivers door, which never shut properly and didn't fit the panel gaps very well. By fixing the issues, the door actually grew a few millimeters in size to fit the door hole better, but also un-bent the par thtat holds the hinges so that should allow shutting the door to be a lot better than in the past.

The boot floor and associated structural members are all now welded in, including rust repairs near the rear shock mounts that wasn't obvious before. The guys are now ready to put the rear panel on - I had to drop in the rear lights and bumper bar so that the rear panel can be finally welded into position, so that's not currently shown in the photos below.

They have also made up a rust repair patch free-hand to go on the drivers side front fender, it's in a photo below but might not be obvious as it's not in it's final location. I'm impressed that the chap managed to free hand such a complex shape!!

Anyways, small steps but moving in the right direction. Next step was the boot channel (where the rubber seal fits), rear window surround and front fender headlight holders - that's a month or two's worth.
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1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
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Post by T-Modell » Wed 13 Feb, 2019 4:21 pm

Hi Eddie,
looks great, great progress! I think that boot floor is definitely one of the best parts :laughing6: :laughing6:

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Thu 14 Feb, 2019 3:54 pm

Thanks Thomas, the boot floor has a lovely, well traveled patina!! Still the best excuse to travel to Germany EVER!
1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
2003 Porsche 911 - had to see what all the fuss was about

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Post by drew56cus » Mon 18 Feb, 2019 6:17 am

Nice to see some physical output as a result of the wallet-draining! The primer colour reinforces how much I like that peppermint green colour (for a sedan, not a coupe).
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Tue 26 Feb, 2019 3:30 pm

I dropped off the head lights today to Meadows so they could start work finalising the front fenders. Only a little bit of progress since last visit so no new photos.

The panel beater was there and pointed out a few cracks in the inner door structure that he wants to repair. He asked if I knew what type of alloy the inner structure is cast from?

I had assumed it was aluminium but he thought it was likely an alloy of some sort, does anyone know what this is, or has experience with welding to it? he was trying to understand which welding type or what rods etc might be needed?
1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
2003 Porsche 911 - had to see what all the fuss was about

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by CraigB » Wed 27 Feb, 2019 12:10 am

I don't know the alloy but I think TIG is most likely what you need. There was a great welder in St. Marys i used a number of times but pretty sure he would be gone - if i go past it in the next couple of days will check.

So many years ago now but many yrs ago I had a GPZ 750 Kawasaki i bought accident damaged, had frame checked and a side cover mount welded back, but they pushed me to have an engine fin also welded at extra cost, that you couldn't really see behind the fairing. Picked it up and at home i noticed this oil gallery plug leaking next to the fin - went back and they wanted big dollars to pull the head etc etc saying the only way to fix it, the heat having broken its seal. Bit poorer then i was devastated after all the other money spent but chatting to my cousin he said to see this guy. Told him the story and he got me to hold the bike over to one side and then did a beautiful neat, almost undectable weld around the plug in seconds before my eyes.... how much.... don't worry about it mate. Lasted no worries throughout many miles of my ownership and probably many others.
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by Bartman4800 » Wed 27 Feb, 2019 11:00 am

And you can also braze aluminium these days.

If it is thin you can use a propane flame, but oxy acetylene is easier

https://www.bunnings.com.au/tradeflame- ... s_p5910264

Great for the repair of cracks and the like...


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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Thu 28 Feb, 2019 12:31 pm

Thanks guys, I will try and get back down there in the next week or two and get some progress photos.
1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
2003 Porsche 911 - had to see what all the fuss was about

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by drew56cus » Thu 28 Feb, 2019 9:39 pm

I may have a piece of the door aluminium left from the one that was shattered on my smashed coupe. So he could trial a few methods on fragments before touching the real thing? If interested, let me know and I will express post it down. Otherwise, i would advise you to get in touch with Chris Stewart or Ron Bunting and see if they know. I think Chris has been on the ozbenz facebook page a bit.
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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by edenning » Sun 17 Mar, 2019 10:18 pm

https://youtu.be/pJ9vOsyU4PU

Petrolicous blau coupe Mercedes

Justin this car is just beautiful, same colour as yours will be.
cheers Evan

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Re: The Green Beast - or what's left of it

Post by eddie » Tue 19 Mar, 2019 9:23 pm

Hey Evan

Wow, that's a beauty - helps that it's a V8 too!!

I would like a touch darker blue, but this is a really attractive combo....one day!!

I probably should post in the w108 forum, but this interesting series has just popped up on Youtube also. In one of the episodes they remove and restore the rear axle and then pop it back in. This would have been handy a few months back Evan!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaKGkykxKrM&t=334s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI5izfrtMQY
1998 W210 E240 - yawn, but like a tank - SOLD, what a great car we'd had it 12 years and was still going strong
1969 Fiat 124 sport coupe - SOLD it...bit sad but onwards and upwards
2000 Mk4 VW Golf GTi - the german's should be ashamed - SOLD, no love lost there
1965 W111 coupe 220seb - project car, going to take forever!
1998 BMW M3 - interim car until the coupe is back, bit of a rocket to boot - SOLD, cant help but think I'm going to regret selling that one :think:
2003 Porsche 911 - had to see what all the fuss was about

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