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Post by Honey500 » Sat 10 Feb, 2018 8:23 pm

Drive it lots in the first 12 months!!!!!
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Post by CraigB » Sun 11 Feb, 2018 1:12 am

I'm glad you have them verified Thomas. At first when i read I was worried for your safety, picturing cash deals with big guys in dark sunglasses, meeting in dark alleys etc etc!
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Post by T-Modell » Sun 11 Feb, 2018 2:01 am

CraigB wrote:
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I'm glad you have them verified Thomas. At first when i read I was worried for your safety, picturing cash deals with big guys in dark sunglasses, meeting in dark alleys etc etc!
Thanks Craig :laughing6:
the guy's in the R107 business for 30 years, so I hope, I return alive ... otherwise all you guys have to help my wife to complete the project :laughing5:
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Post by AMG » Mon 12 Feb, 2018 10:15 pm

He always travels with his HK "protection"

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Post by Honey500 » Tue 13 Feb, 2018 9:50 am

Is that a factory option? :laughing5:
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Post by AMG » Tue 13 Feb, 2018 2:09 pm

Honey500 wrote:
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Is that a factory option? :laughing5:
Yep. This green version for Bundespolizei. w126. pic's been around for decades, I just dug it up again for giggles :laughing6:

You have to put it into 1980's context - There was an East Germany and a West Germany and a very chilly 'war' still going on in Europe.

Mp5's were (still are) a good weapon of choice.
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Post by T-Modell » Tue 13 Feb, 2018 6:44 pm

AMG wrote:
Tue 13 Feb, 2018 2:09 pm
Honey500 wrote:
Tue 13 Feb, 2018 9:50 am
Is that a factory option? :laughing5:
Yep. This green version for Bundespolizei. w126. pic's been around for decades, I just dug it up again for giggles :laughing6:

You have to put it into 1980's context - There was an East Germany and a West Germany and a very chilly 'war' still going on in Europe.

Mp5's were (still are) a good weapon of choice.
Hi,
in the 80s we still had serious problems with the RAF terrorists; that's when those cars were in use. Between East and West it was more money (towards the East) and critical people (towards the West) exchange ...
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Post by T-Modell » Thu 15 Feb, 2018 1:51 am

:occasion5: :occasion5: :occasion5: I GOT IT ... a brandnew M117 with all new parts attached :occasion5: :occasion5: :occasion5:

It will be delivered Monday in a week acc. to my specs, i. e. it will be "downgraded" to a 1980 version without motor control and electronic idle control ... so more simple. Part of the deal were all my ordered spare parts for the motor revision; so he will take them for the next motor.

Apart from that, I could also source the ultra-rare 15" hubcaps, so the pickup will be original!!!

Good day, although expensive :laughing6:
Thomas

P. S.: The guy is so interested in this project, that he will deliver the motor himself ("wanna have a look") :laughing6: ...300kms drive one-way ...
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Post by CraigB » Thu 15 Feb, 2018 8:37 am

if he is really interested you could suggest if he puts the motor in he could take it for a drive!
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Post by AMG » Thu 15 Feb, 2018 8:41 am

CraigB wrote:
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 8:37 am
if he is really interested you could suggest if he puts the motor in he could take it for a drive!
:laughing6: :laughing5: :laughing6: :laughing5: :laughing6: :notworthy:
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Post by T-Modell » Thu 15 Feb, 2018 5:37 pm

I'll suggest that :laughing5: :laughing5:
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Post by Honey500 » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 11:27 am

Great news!
Good that the parts you had for the old motor will not go to waste. So was the old motor so bad that it is basically scrap value?
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Post by T-Modell » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 6:17 pm

Honey500 wrote:
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...So was the old motor so bad that it is basically scrap value?
Yep,
even Stefan's contact in Finnland is - if at all - interested in the heads. So I keep things like the starter, servo pump etc. as spare parts and I already have ideas to make a glass table out of the block :laughing6: :laughing6: (my wife's already happy, as it would be the second "car glass table" ... I have an 18" AMG wheel converted to a glass table).

Most important will be the test, if wine bottles fit into the cylindres, that might convince SWMBO :laughing5:

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Post by Honey500 » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 9:33 pm

:love10: the idea and that your wife also loves the idea. Makes a unique wine bottle holder. I do not see Mrs allowing that into to mine.

Good mate of mine has a similar plan, contact he had was wrecking a BMW M5 V10 that was fire damaged so he brought the block cheap for a coffee table project.
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Post by T-Modell » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 10:06 pm

Honey500 wrote:
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... and that your wife also loves the idea. ...
Let's put it that way: it was more a sarcastic remark :laughing6: ... I definitely have to get rid of the AMG glass table, two tables aren't allowed. However I am extremely blessed with my wife (in many ways); but especially in this project she puts up with all my sleepless nights, the time I spend on constructing pieces in 3D and doing my internship at Mercedes etc etc ... including more than one room in the house looking like a Mercedes spare parts storage ... I really do thank her for that ...

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Post by Honey500 » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 10:29 pm

Have certainly pick up that your Wife is quite supportive of your endeavors. Very much a blessing. My darling wife is not such a fan of my Sadey!
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Post by T-Modell » Fri 23 Feb, 2018 6:08 pm

Hi guys,
finally some good news: the gearbox is in a good condition! :occasion5: ... no metal parts or other damages visible. Yesterday we replaced all sealings ... a really nice guy, the transmission specialist at Mercedes, did the work ... I was the intern, as usual :laughing6:

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Monday, the new motor should come!
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Post by AMG » Fri 23 Feb, 2018 11:15 pm

Thomas, did you get him to change the K1 spring and valvebody piston rings? (3-4 shift slowness) would have been a doddle with the valvebody so accessible... not that it matters
I was only thinking for longevity of clutch packs...
Oh, now I think of it, it matters not - massive bonus for you - your guys will have the factory tools & gauges to set the control pressure / modulator pressure and check the operating pressures with the trans in the car.... on their dyno. :occasion5:
if ever there was a time to be a teeny bit jealous, it would be now, with your access to in-house MB trans specialists.
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Post by T-Modell » Sat 24 Feb, 2018 6:02 pm

Look Joe,
here you ask four people what to do with a gearbox and you get five opinions. I trusted my mechanic at MB and Stefan 6.9. They both told me - as the gearbox was fine when I drove the car - to replace the sealings (as described) and do NOT invest huge money in a complete overhaul. Even if the gearbox turns out to be defective once we drive the car, it's relatively easy to get out.
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Post by T-Modell » Tue 27 Feb, 2018 3:27 am

Hi guys,

today the new motor was delivered :occasion5:
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Looks reaaaaaly good, today we adapted some parts to it and next week the gearbox, compressor etc. will be fitted and the motor will go in.

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Post by eddie » Tue 27 Feb, 2018 8:26 am

That is very sweet Thomas, looking forward to it all being mashed together!
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Post by Bartman4800 » Tue 27 Feb, 2018 10:54 am

OMG it is so nice to restore a car by taking the clingwrap off large objects.

While most of us scrape rust and try to drill out seized bolts :laughing6:

Awesome progress Thomas, thanks for keeping us informed. :thumbup:
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Post by Honey500 » Tue 27 Feb, 2018 12:45 pm

Thomas that is a beautiful thing!!
Everything clean and polished!
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Post by TheMadRacoon » Tue 27 Feb, 2018 6:52 pm

Honey500 wrote:
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Thomas that is a beautiful thing!!
Everything clean and polished!
+1,000,000

Actually makes me wonder what direction this project would have taken if you'd started with that beautiful engine first.
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Post by CraigB » Tue 27 Feb, 2018 6:56 pm

That's pretty cool - a blank casting with no engine number, just the type ie. 117960....... will you need to stamp it to get rego? It is the number that is on it and no doubt no other cars with that number. I guess the idea would be if a dealer fitted it they would restamp with the number of broken motor they throw away.
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Post by T-Modell » Tue 27 Feb, 2018 7:49 pm

Hi guys,
thanks for the comments! A new block has no number at all; so the 117 960 was stamped by the guy who sold the motor to me; I need that for registration. A refurbished motor would have a special plate attached, indicating this.

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Post by T-Modell » Tue 06 Mar, 2018 6:48 pm

Hi down under,
yesterday we completed the motor, attached the gearbox, found a way for the fuel lines and put it in (not yet finally fixed, but it's in):
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Post by AMG » Wed 07 Mar, 2018 9:24 am

Awesome.
Current:
1987 560SL 4sp. auto Signalrot "Stella"
1987 190E 2.3-16 5sp. man. Blauschwarz "Hermann"
1992 300CE-24 6sp. man. Perlblau / Iceblau "Gretel"
1992 Range Rover Classic 4sp auto Ardennes Green "Oswald"
2012 E63 AMG Speedshift MCT Diamantweiß "Klaus"
Previous:
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1987 190E 2.6 4sp. auto Signalrot "Sabine" - which now resides/owns Andrew M's Ga