W111 respray (Victoria)

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thebassetthound
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W111 respray (Victoria)

Post by thebassetthound » Fri 04 Aug, 2017 1:06 pm

Hey all,

Chasing two trains of thought - closed door respray vs. full bare metal respray - wither way will need a little body work to tidy some rust.

Bare metal would mean higher resale I guess / Closed door is obviously going to be cheaper

Recommendations re: which option, who have you used, any ideas on cost?
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Re: W111 respray (Victoria)

Post by CraigB » Fri 04 Aug, 2017 5:17 pm

Only quick comments i have are that if you have any crazing/crows feet in paint, then you have to go back to bare metal anyway, but can still be closed door. If they do a good job of closed door and that old paint is good i don't see any big difference in value. Underbonnet will make a difference if they needs a repaint to look good - lots of work removing things, masking, cleaning etc to do a good job of that. Also main difference in closed door or not is stripping the car and putting it back together. If you can do that yourself then it shouldn't be a huge difference in cost i would think.
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Re: W111 respray (Victoria)

Post by Mercmad » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 7:41 am

On any Finny bare metal is the only way to go . The original paint will cause problems because it was enamel and eventually two pack will react with ity as the different expansion rates counteract each other. It's no cheaper to get a quick blow over the top type of paint job ,Back on $10 grand for a reasonable paint job. There is a lot of work painting a finny and the replacing the various clips can run into a stack of cash.

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Post by Bartman4800 » Wed 09 Aug, 2017 1:21 pm

And you would not recommend to respray with enamel Ron?

Just want to hear your comment.

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Re: W111 respray (Victoria)

Post by Mercmad » Tue 15 Aug, 2017 9:48 am

I'm not sure if you can still buy enamel car paint. Acrylic paint is barely used today and 2 pak, apart from the deadly poisonous nature of it is so easy to use .All of the colour codes are still available and are translated into 2 pak mixing recipes . I haven't painted a car with enamel since the early 70's.

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Re: W111 respray (Victoria)

Post by Bartman4800 » Tue 15 Aug, 2017 6:48 pm

I talked to a lady carpainter over the weekend.

She told me they come across this issue a lot - older cars with 1k paint that have to be repainted with 2k
She said they use a special sealer to act as a buffer and does not give any trouble.

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1963 220 Sb Sedan "Kermit" (Australian Assembly)
1960 220 Sb Sedan "Zum Schlachten" (Early German Assembly, with a torsion bar spring for the bonnet) - Stored in Country WA
1981 Subaru Brumby 1.8 with Weber and 5-speed box "little utie" - Sold to another enthusiast!
2006 Ford Focus "daily driver"
2002 VW Passat V6 30V Station Wagon (SOLD - This car into a money pit)
2011 Kia Sportage "Missus commuter Bus"
2002 Mitsubishi Rosa Bus (converting it to a motor home)

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