Removing lock barrel from the door handle push button

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Removing lock barrel from the door handle push button

Post by einar » Thu 03 Aug, 2017 3:49 am

I’ve recently got hold of two front door handles and a gas cap that share the same key. The plan is (was) to replace the lock barrel from these with the ones already on the car (need to do this replacement as the “new” door handles and push buttons do not look good). The push button containing the lock barrel was easily removed from the door handle. However, the lock barrel seems to be fixed to the push button by a small “wedge”. OK, I thought – this should probably be pushed in a bit and then the barrel is released. But now way – I’m not able to push it with reasonable force. I’ve also tried to pull it, but rather limited grip with a small plier. So, the issue is how to release the barrel from the cylinder/push handle? Attached are some pictures that may illustrate the problem.
Has anyone disassembled such type of lock barrel from the push button? Any advices highly appreciated as I would like to reduce the number of keys
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Re: Removing lock barrel from the door handle push button

Post by Bartman4800 » Thu 03 Aug, 2017 10:15 am

I don't know how to open up those barrels, but here is a thought:

The locks are different on the doors/fuel cap and boot from factory.

Rather than having to carry all these different keys + running the risk that the locks stop working, I was going to install central locking on the car (in a way that can be reversed)

This is fairly cheap (if you do it yourself), and it greatly enhances the functionality of the car.

Just a thought....



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Re: Removing lock barrel from the door handle push button

Post by einar » Fri 04 Aug, 2017 3:26 am

Wow – central locking would be nice. “Cheap and easy/DIY” – can you provide some info. Any kit that can be installed etc.? A possible long-term upgrade, and the above will be be the short-term – to remove the barrel.
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Post by Bartman4800 » Fri 04 Aug, 2017 12:39 pm

It's quite easy actually.
You can go to your local auto store, or look on Fleabay.
Pulling the cables is the hardest part

Here is an example:

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Produc ... rol/153376

I have only seen 2 and 4 door systems, but you must be able to add an extra actuator on the boot.

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Re: Removing lock barrel from the door handle push button

Post by einar » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 9:27 pm

Both wedges are now out. Got the following advice on the facebook group «This wedge must be removed in it's entirety before the cylinder will slide out. Make sure the crimps are ground away that hold it in, and then use something like a really sharp ice pick or a really sharp pic to pry it out. It'll come out. Just try getting in down on the side of it and prying up. Don't worry about a little damage to the metal around it, as that will not affect the functionality of the assembly when reassembled. “
I was not aware of the central locking kits available – and yes available locally “all over”. Could be something to do, and – yes pulling the cables would probably be the challenging issue. Thanks for the suggestion :-)
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Post by Bobsmyuncle » Sun 17 Dec, 2017 11:32 am

If I may jump on your coat tails since you have everyone's attention are the lock cylinders for the glovebox, trunk (boot) and doors interchangeable?
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Post by Tony From West Oz » Sun 17 Dec, 2017 2:38 pm

Not sure about your model but in W123, the drivers doors are different to the glove box and boot lid. The owner has a Valet key and a master key. The Valet key will not ope a locked boot or glove box. The Master key opens everything.
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Re: Removing lock barrel from the door handle push button

Post by Bobsmyuncle » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 6:55 pm

Sorry I should have been specific. In my case a '67 W111 230s.

While there is no evidence of any doors being unoriginal the locks don't meet MB convention.

Trunk (boot) and driver's door are the same. The glove box key is different (and missing) as is the passenger door.
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