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AMG 300CE - 24 3.4

Post by John Green » Fri 17 Jun, 2011 7:08 pm

OK, guess I had better post this here....
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The vehicle in question is a specially modified Mercedes-Benz 300CE-24 that was modified from new by AMG in Germany. It features a specially modified 3.4lt six-cylinder engine with 200 kW/272 hp output and 335 Nm of torque, which was a very powerful engine for its capacity in its day. These cars were expensive and cost more than the then recently released 500SL that sold for over $250000.00 here in Australia.


My understanding is that it was the first model made under an historic agreement between Daimler-Benz and AMG in 1990 where AMG cars were sold and serviced by the world-wide sales network of Mercedes-Benz. As poted elsewhere on this forum there is a Mercedes option code for the AMG parts fitted to this car.This agreement started the two companies on the path that eventually saw Daimler-Benz buy out AMG.
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The car was built to order for a Mr Gerhard Hassler who was a German businessman that moved to Australia some time around 1993-4. He brought with him this Mercedes-Benz and a similarly modified BMW sedan. It turns out that he was a con artist and his business of selling diet pills got him in a lot of trouble. He even made it for a spot on “A Current Affair”. Anyway, by some time around early 1998 he went bankrupt and the cars were seized by Prentice Parbery Barilla P/L. I have no idea what happened to the BMW but the Mercedes-Benz was put up for sale. Apparently a deal was reached, only to find that Mr Hassler had brought the car into the country under some system where the duty is not paid as the car was to be exported back to Germany. As the car was worth over $200000.00AUD when it was imported the customs department wanted duty and sales tax paid on that amount before the car could be sold. Problem was that the car had depreciated to a lot less than the original price and almost no money would be made from selling the vehicle after the customs department was paid out.

After wondering what to do for awhile, the receivers then hit on the idea of sending the car to New Zealand and back in April 1999. The cost of which, and the tax payable on its return, would have been less than what was owed. For some reason it stayed in New Zealand for some time. I think they had some ideas of trying to sell it in New Zealand but found out that due to some technicality it could not be registered.

I had known about this car since it came into Australia as it was displayed at various Mercedes-Benz club events around 93-95 and was featured at the Opera House display during the Easter 94 Rally. I also knew it had been seized but never thought I would ever see it again until a friend contacted me in late 1999 telling me that it was sitting in a shipping container in Christchurch.

To cut a long story short I brought the car on behalf of a collector in the USA but it had to come via Australia to be inspected before going to the USA. This was because nobody had seen the car for a few years and it had been locked in a shipping container for the last 9 months. Nobody knew what it would look like! For this reason we applied for and were granted a transit permit number 43362/5 from the Department of Transport and Regional Services (DOTARS). A transit permit is exactly what it says. A permit for a car to transit though Australia. It is a condition of the permit that it can not be driven on any Australian road. The car arrived here in Australia in March 2000 The permit states that the car is a 1991 model however it was produced in December 1990. I have documented proof from DaimlerChrysler to support this.
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Between the deal being done and the car arriving some of the USA regulations regarding importing “non federalised” vehicles and associated costs were changed. The cost changes were quite significant. As a result the deal to send the car to the USA collapsed and I was left with the car. Various attempts to sell the car were made but always failed due to the regulations of the various countries that people enquired from.

Knowing that the permit only ran for two years and had expired in March 2002, I wrote to the Administrator of Vehicle Standards in October 2002 and again in August 2003 asking for ideas as to what could be done and offering solutions that could be followed. The Administrator was not interested in anything but the vehicle being exported or destroyed.....
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By now I had locked the car away and removed all sale notices from the internet as I did not really want to draw any attention to its existence as it was by now an “illegal immigrant” We joked about it being sent out to the Woomera detention centre. I had decided to wait until it had its 15th birthday as there was an exemption of most regulations on the importing of cars of 15 years of age or older.

In February 2005 I rang the DOTARS office only to find out that there were changes to rules regarding the importation of 15 year old cars. I was advised that the 15 year rule was no more, but that there was an agreement that any cars purchased before the rule change would be allowed in when they turned 15. It was a common practice for importers to purchase cars that were 14 years old and wait for there 15th birthday before importing them. I made myself a diary note to ring back DOTARS on the 3rd of January 2006 to arrange the paperwork only to find out when I did ring that whoever I spoke to omitted two very important piece of information. He did not tell me about the 31st December deadline and that it would not apply to 1991 built vehicles………
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Yes, that is right, the exception only applied to vehicles that had their application submitted before the 31st of December 2005. So I had waited for nearly five years and been beaten to the post by three days................ Not being one to give in to easily, I put in my application anyway knowing that it would be rejected, but figured that was the only way forward. When the rejection arrived, I phoned and wrote to the Administrator and asked why, the obvious answer was given...


The ace up my sleeve was that if I had been correctly advised of the 1991 issue, I would have raised the mistake on the original permit when I rang in February 2005.
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So the next step was to take DOTARS to the Administrative appeals tribunal. The application was made and at the same time a request for an internal review of the decision was requested. Then, totally out of the blue, on the 22nd of February 2006 I received a letter from the Administrator giving in and allowing the vehicle to stay in Australia........


I still can not register it unless I convert it to RHD, but at least I can drive it on Australian roads and I have saved it from an uncertain future, (my wife however still thinks I am crazy....). Since then I have driven the car on a special permit on the 2006 National rally in Canberra and the recent 2008 National rally in Victoria. The car is very much still in one piece and has just clocked over 50000kms.....


It is 100% in original condition, no updated bonnet, no silly wheels, just the way that it left the AMG factory.
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Re: AMG 300CE - 24 3.4

Post by cuisses » Fri 17 Jun, 2011 7:41 pm

:boohoo:
my wife however still thinks I am crazy....
Wives/girlfriends tend to cop a lot of criticism on this forum (much of it I am sure is very much deserved) -usually along the lines of "She doesn't understand. I need at least 11 cars ...", :boohoo:, but in this case I am in full agreement with Sandra. A very expensive car which you cannot register, and even if you could register it you cannot use any of its performance on an ordinary road :banghead: . You are certainly mad, but as you are able to fix cars and provide hard-to-get parts at reasonable prices we will not be putting you in the special ward at Woden Hospital just yet.
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Re: AMG 300CE - 24 3.4

Post by markb » Fri 17 Jun, 2011 8:03 pm

but hey...at least he can look at it...and that's half the appeal of this rare AMG !! :glasses2:
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Re: AMG 300CE - 24 3.4

Post by AMG » Fri 17 Jun, 2011 8:09 pm

markb wrote:but hey...at least he can look at it...and that's half the appeal of this rare AMG !! :glasses2:

He can't even do that, because it's not parked in his own Garage! :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:
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Re: AMG 300CE - 24 3.4

Post by suitcaseau » Fri 17 Jun, 2011 11:12 pm

Mad? maybe, but who would really like to see such a car scrapped?

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Re: AMG 300CE - 24 3.4

Post by Michel » Sat 18 Jun, 2011 4:43 am

So, If I understand well:
1-The car is saved and has been granted a permanent visa (doe not need to be exported or destroyed).
2-It cannot get a job (you can't get it registered)
3-You can trailer it to special events or can you get permits and drive it.

But the question is:

Is it for sale and how much? :laughing6:
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Re: AMG 300CE - 24 3.4

Post by AMG » Sat 18 Jun, 2011 8:48 am

Michel.....

Get in Line Buddy :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

I have been told a million times, it's not for sale... ever.

we all know that one day, john will reach 86 and he'll have to think about it more seriously, but you can bet the stitches on your britches give long before he let's it loose into the hands of another owner.
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1992 Range Rover Classic 4sp auto Ardennes Green "Oswald"
2012 E63 AMG Speedshift MCT Diamantweiß "Klaus"
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1986 560SEL Anthracitgrau "Schultz" - In Mercedes Heaven
1987 190E 2.6 4sp. auto Signalrot "Sabine" - which now resides/owns Andrew M's Garage
1972 350SLC Astralsilber "Lurch" - now in the loving care of Craig B
1989 2.5-16 Blauschwarz 4sp. auto (parted) formerly owned by Derek/Hasan.
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Re: AMG 300CE - 24 3.4

Post by Hendrik » Sat 18 Jun, 2011 12:05 pm

Just out of curiosity, if the order had been given to destroy the vehicle, would it have been permissible to pull the car apart and transfer the nice bits into another C124 or a S124?
That front bumper bar would look pretty cool on my wagen, it's blue black in colour(?), in that case I'll take the sunroof and bonnet as well?

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Re: AMG 300CE - 24 3.4

Post by John Green » Sat 18 Jun, 2011 12:10 pm

Hendrik wrote:Just out of curiosity, if the order had been given to destroy the vehicle, would it have been permissible to pull the car apart and transfer the nice bits into another C124 or a S124?
That front bumper bar would look pretty cool on my wagen, it's blue black in colour(?), in that case I'll take the sunroof and bonnet as well?
Good question, illegal imports are crushed each year, but they get caught before they even get a chance to leave the docks. This would have been a rather unique situation for them to enforce as I had possesion of the car.

But, yes if they gave the order they would have been disappointed when they came to pick it up..
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Re: AMG 300CE - 24 3.4

Post by T-Modell » Fri 22 Jul, 2011 4:28 pm

John Green wrote: ....

My understanding is that it was the first model made under an historic agreement between Daimler-Benz and AMG in 1990 where AMG cars were sold and serviced by the world-wide sales network of Mercedes-Benz. As poted elsewhere on this forum there is a Mercedes option code for the AMG parts fitted to this car.This agreement started the two companies on the path that eventually saw Daimler-Benz buy out AMG.
Hi John,

I'm pretty sure, the 3.4 was still an AMG only ... here some pricelists I still got (facelift W124 was in 1993, July) ... you see the change from °320CE" to E320 and from 1993/1994 on, the E36 AMG was the first one of the coperation, where you could buy the AMG directly from MB:
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