THRSTY merc

[Eski]

Hello ozbenz!!

My names Matt and I'm from Perth. About a year ago I bought a w114. At the time everything looked good and seemed to drive amazing. Since then I have been going over the car and well it's turned into a decent sized project.
I love the car to bits and hope to have it back on the road this year some time. At the moment I'm fixing rust in the rocker panels, boot and rear quarters also getting all the calipers rebuilt and freshening up all the suspension

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[Eski]

Also by any chance does anyone know how much difference there is between w114 and w124 engine mount locations? As in width apart, Is there similar amount of room in the engine bays?

[Eski]

Ok so over the last month or so I have been getting all the parts I need to get up and going again. I have all the brake calipers back looking like new, all new discs all round. They will be going on this weekend.

Most of the patch panels are done with only the passenger side rocker left. I'm hoping that the paint I have bought to paint will be close-ish. I know it'll be a little off due to age.
I have to get the indicators to hold position again (easy fix)

My spring compressors have finally turned up so if anyone needs to borrow them hit me up.

[John Green]

I love a subtle number plate, one that only a few will actually get. "well played"

[Eski]

Haha thanks, not many actually get it. I get most people thinking it refers to fuel assuming it has a V8 or something

[Eski]

If possible is anyone able to tell me the distance between engine mounts? I'd measure but I'm out of town for the week and my wife wouldnt know where to start haha

[Eski]

Ok so all the rust is now gone!!!!! Took longer than I had hoped but it's done. I have painted all the wheels Wells and it's made a big difference in how tidy it looks. Next on the list is to bleed the brakes and install suspension

[Bartman4800]

Make sure you check your rubber brake hoses for cracks before you bleed the brakes.

Replace when in doubt!


Bart

[Eski]

Thanks, I already bought new front hoses and the rears are hardline all the way to the calipers

[Bartman4800]

Really?

I would think there is a flexible where the brake line transfers from the body to each swing arm....


Bart

[Eski]

Now you say it it doesn't make sense to me either I'll have another look

[Eski]

Thanks heaps Bart. In my sleep deprived state from our newborn I didn't even look that little further. Buying new ones tonight

[Eski]

Ok not much progress but when under the car I noticed the transmission support bracket was spaced down (looks dodgy) does anyone know why this may of been done? I'll try get pics tomorrow

It's at least 2 inches lower from memory

[Eski]

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Not a great picture but you can see on the left there are a few nuts used to space it down

[Bangbug]

I thought it was upside down.... but it's been a long time since I pulled mine out! :D

[Eski]

Wait, is it? Could it actually be upside down?

[Bangbug]

Only a few bolts ;)

Is the engine etc original to the car?
I see you were speaking of engine mounts etc.

[Eski]

I will double check if the engine matches. I was thinking about engine conversions at one stage to something newer but I dunno anymore

[Bangbug]

http://mbturbo.com/mounting-om606-engine-in-a-w114/

Do you like cutting metal and hate your neighbours? :D

[Eski]

I was thinking 1jz as I have one on a stand at home but I couldn't find a kit for it only for a w124 but I don't know how different the engine mount locations are.
I have since moved on from that idea and will keep this motor in

[AMG]

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Not a great picture but you can see on the left there are a few nuts used to space it down

Ok,

I think at this stage we need a few more pics to determine a few things.

1. the transmission rear mount. does it look like
this:

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or this:

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or this:

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[AMG]

Giles is also in your locale and has a lot of expertise in W114 models, and many parts.

Suggest you get in touch with him via PM here or via w114 outlaw FB page.

[Eski]

Ok well I took more pictures. I know it needs a good clean and a new mount but here's what I got

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[AMG]

It doesn't look correct - as in the crossmember.

Sure, the mount is stuffed - that's not difficult to replace.

the issue is the crossmember. in the pics I posted from the EPC, which one is used depends on your transmission type and your engine / vehicle model.

what is your VIN?

The auto looks like a 722.200, but it's not easy to tell.

[Eski]

VIN: 11401522051750
Engine: 10892020034973

[AMG]

Here's some info.
Should be reasonably self-explanatory. typ suffixes are related to L for LHD, R for RHD, A for automatic, M for manual and then combined - e.g. RM- RHD Manual transmission / LA = LHD Automatic transmission.
the footnotes don't print, but they are production cutoffs - e.g. upto vin (last 6 digits) or for example 412 = NLA order individual parts.

WIS-EPC printed document-1.pdf

WIS-EPC printed document-2.pdf

[rx22nv]

I've seen people space down a crossmember to resolve a tailshaft angle issue. Usually in a lowered car.

[AMG]

I've seen people space down a crossmember to resolve a tailshaft angle issue. Usually in a lowered car.

Not necessary in a 114/5 though - they have IRS. on the earlier models with a swing axle, maybe, but not necessarily so.
Usually a crossmember swap/mod is from a gearbox swap, and if this was a different auto or a manual to auto, then I would expect that the conversion should have the correct transmission crossmember, they were not expensive (still aren't) and one would have picked up the necessary bits with the swapout from the wrecker or whoever.

iirc the 124 & 201's trans crossmembers were less than 50 bucks for brand new factory part. so no real excuse from that perspective. the actual trans mounts were more expensive than the crossmember!

[Eski]

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[drew56cus]

Tricky, nicely done!

[Eski]

It runs all good now. Serviced it and replaced a few leaking gaskets can cruise with the family in comfort and style

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[Eski]

Little help please fellas.
My column shift linkage is in need of new bushes I'm pretty sure. It won't always register that it's in park or neutral to start. Of I play with it a bit its all good but yea.
Any help with parts I actually need and how to replace?

[Fozza]

Hey Eski,
Just read this thread by chance - very nice W114 you've pulled together there. Love and $ makes all the difference doesn't it?!
Not sure if you've sorted your bushes for your column shift linkage as yet - but if not, try McStar Parts (google it). If it's not on the website contact Kevin directly. He's pretty good at sourcing stuff if your need it for older Mercs if its not in stock. Go well...

PS - Talking to another OZBenz member today and he reckons a W116 4.5 that ended up in the yard of our mechanic is the actual Merc that the band Thirsty Merc once drove - apropos your subject line and number plate / made me chuckle.... got the albums?

[Eski]

Thanks Fozza. I ended up getting the bushes needed online and wasn't as bad as I thought to swap out. The one attached to the neutral switch in the tunnel was a bit fiddly though.

Not much to update just been driving and enjoying the car. Not to annoy purists or anything but I reworked the rear half of exhaust and played with bumpstops to get the rear end as low as I could when aired out. Just need to redo front half now

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[John Green]

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Not a great picture but you can see on the left there are a few nuts used to space it down

That is a cross member from a W108 or W109!!! In one of your later pictures you can see the small tube the hand brake cable runs though.

[Eski]

Nice, thanks for the info man I appreciate it