Guess what I bought

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Guess what I bought

Post by julian » Sun 13 May, 2018 7:53 pm

So, I'm back in a benz after 3 years. Let's see if you can guess the car.
It is a 1980 w123. The hint is "slow".
Pastel grey is excluded from the competition.
w123 240D auto Lang
A Discovery 3
An Outback 3L
Previously: 1977 300D, 1979 300TD, 1982 280SE, 1988 560SEL

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Re: Guess what I bought

Post by Lance » Sun 13 May, 2018 8:03 pm

240D automatic.
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Post by julian » Sun 13 May, 2018 8:20 pm

YES!
Bonus points for correct chassis.
w123 240D auto Lang
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Previously: 1977 300D, 1979 300TD, 1982 280SE, 1988 560SEL

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Re: Guess what I bought

Post by pastelgrey300D » Mon 14 May, 2018 10:09 am

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Pastel grey is excluded from the competition.
Ahhh bummer...
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Re: Guess what I bought

Post by Dweezil » Mon 14 May, 2018 10:48 am

Welcome back, Julian, but the only place I can image an auto 240D being a usable thing is in Holland.

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Post by tsharkey » Mon 14 May, 2018 1:17 pm

From a 560SEL to a 240D - Now there is the long and short of it.

Is it a commuter or toy ?

Welcome back anyways Julian.
W123 1981 300TD - Family Kid mover
W202 1998 C250D Factory OM605A Turbo - Partner's daily driver
W123 1982 300CD Retro fitted OM617A Turbo - Mine
W123 1984 300TD 5 Speed Manual, to teach the kids how to drive
W123 1982 300TD Factory OM617A Turbo (Hans) - Project
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Re: Guess what I bought

Post by Bartman4800 » Mon 14 May, 2018 1:23 pm

Dweezil wrote:
Mon 14 May, 2018 10:48 am
Welcome back, Julian, but the only place I can image an auto 240D being a usable thing is in Holland.

Dweezil
Please explain yourself?

The highway speeds in NL are actually higher than in Oz. And no one would be interested in an Auto there....


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Post by Pete49 » Mon 14 May, 2018 1:46 pm

Bartman4800 wrote:
Mon 14 May, 2018 1:23 pm
Dweezil wrote:
Mon 14 May, 2018 10:48 am
Welcome back, Julian, but the only place I can image an auto 240D being a usable thing is in Holland.
Dweezil
Please explain yourself?
The highway speeds in NL are actually higher than in Oz. And no one would be interested in an Auto there....
Bart
The higher speed limit is so their speed skaters and bike riders don't got booked. :laughing6:
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Re: Guess what I bought

Post by Dweezil » Mon 14 May, 2018 2:07 pm

Bartman4800 wrote:
Mon 14 May, 2018 1:23 pm
Dweezil wrote:
Mon 14 May, 2018 10:48 am
Welcome back, Julian, but the only place I can image an auto 240D being a usable thing is in Holland.

Dweezil
Please explain yourself?

The highway speeds in NL are actually higher than in Oz. And no one would be interested in an Auto there....


Bart
It's dead flat.

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Re: Guess what I bought

Post by julian » Mon 14 May, 2018 6:44 pm

Well it is the lang body.
Bought on the weekend with the help of pastelgrey here, who has now looked at 1 car specifically for me, and provided detailed inspection reports for 2 others.

Will have some interior re-trimmed then get some bodywork addressed as some typical rust in w123 places.

Definitely a toy.

Given that I accidentally kept all the running gear from the 560SEL I have now got to decide if it needs a 300hp V8.

Parts needed:
Bundts or 15 inch hubcaps
A roll of MB tex in matching colour
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Post by pastelgrey300D » Tue 15 May, 2018 12:20 am

I should add that I was up in the riverland the other week and made a quick detour to look at this car - was seriously considering it but decided against it due to family and other commitments.

The 560SEL running gear may be a necessity - after warming the car up I took it on a test drive and pulled over on a flat stretch of road to do a standing acceleration test - I've owned a 240D auto previously so had a rough idea of how slow it may be - but even I wasn't prepared for this - took 15 seconds for 0-60km/h and 0-100km took 50 seconds!

Julian - try these guys for the MB tex - you can request a sample but pretty sure the one you are looking for is Tabacco (163)

http://worlduph.com/samples/vinylmbzmid.htm#*
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Post by pastelgrey300D » Tue 15 May, 2018 12:21 am

Looks like SA is going to be the LWB W123 capital of Australia - one of the local club members has a 300D lang and they recently won the shannons 'motoring memories' competition with their entry:

https://www.shannons.com.au/club/motor- ... 300d-lang/
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Re: Guess what I bought

Post by Dweezil » Tue 15 May, 2018 12:25 am

Awesome pick-up, Julian.

If it's any consolation, I saw a 240D lang outside Lord's once. Not quite highway conditions in St John's Wood, but it was going ok.

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Post by tsharkey » Tue 15 May, 2018 9:57 pm

Looks in good order Julian - Is it to cater for the growing family ?

A W123 560SEL - Very Classy

Am sure the brains trust knows which engine arm, exhaust manifold, radiator, rear gearbox cross member and differential is needed to make that all work, and look factory . You could even get one of those fancy KE Jet replacement computers just to make sure you have more ponies for the toy.

Or ... you could leave as is , what a great ride, and pretty unique too (although apparently not so in SA).
W123 1981 300TD - Family Kid mover
W202 1998 C250D Factory OM605A Turbo - Partner's daily driver
W123 1982 300CD Retro fitted OM617A Turbo - Mine
W123 1984 300TD 5 Speed Manual, to teach the kids how to drive
W123 1982 300TD Factory OM617A Turbo (Hans) - Project
W123 1985 230TE - Brother's
W123 1985 300D - Sister in Law's
1962 S-Series Valiant (Tho Daimler & Chrysler divorced, still part of the extended family)

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W114 1969 250CE - PO put in an M110 transplant and nearly sent me around the bend
W123 1981 300TD - "Matilda" - RIP hit front side & rear but left my brother + niece A-OK

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Re: Guess what I bought

Post by mathuisella » Thu 17 May, 2018 2:14 am

How is it to fit in parking spaces at supermarkets ect ?

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Re: Guess what I bought

Post by pastelgrey300D » Thu 17 May, 2018 9:46 am

It's not as long and cumbersome as you might think (only 630mm more than a standard 123), although probably not the best for parallel parking. Overall a LWB W123 is 5355mm, this is only 50mm longer than a holden crewman and about 100mm longer than a landcruiser 70 series dual cab.

I was kind of dissapointed with the legroom inside with the middle row seats folded down, it's fairly tight (I had gone to look at the car with a view to using it as a chauffeur/wedding car). Considering all the effort MB went into making a LWB version if they had just made it another 100-200mm longer overall it wouldn't be as squeezy in the rear.
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Post by mathuisella » Thu 17 May, 2018 10:51 am

do the middle seats come out or fold completely out of the way so one could have legroom in the back :D

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Post by pastelgrey300D » Thu 17 May, 2018 11:25 am

Sure do. The seat back folds down forward and then the whole seat folds up against the back of the drivers seat. If you're only taking 2-3 in the back it's very roomy!

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Post by mathuisella » Mon 21 May, 2018 6:20 am

That's awesome :D

Anyone who's 6 foot or taller i bet loves this. ( i would as i'm over 6 myself, but haven't tried it, but i soo want one )


Looks like i need a Lang, wagon and coupe to complete the collection with my sedan :P

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Post by kimrh » Mon 21 May, 2018 9:30 am

Remove those middle row seats and make a nice compact custom centre limo style drinks cabinet "to your own taste" and the rear passengers would be very happy with the acres of leg room (perfect for a wedding car)
With a 560 high comp engine & running gear it would be a sweet driver and nice surprise for any passengers

Pics from a W126 stretch limo with a more modern flair theme happening than the old way of tons of burlwood panels which always looked very bulky
They could watch the footy while being driven to the wedding - haha
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Post by julian » Mon 28 May, 2018 7:00 am

For now I think the aim is to sweeten the origins features and repair some of the wear and tear. Currently waiting for a slab for the shed, and on a side note I am totally dismayed at the professionalism of the tradespeople from this field that I’ve had around.

There are quite a few small issues that in totality make for a lot of work, and a few areas of rust repair.
Has a boot mounted AC system made by sanden as is the compressor but is not currently functioning but bridging the pressure switch activates the system so hopefully a leak somewhere is all that needs repair before new gas, valve and drier.
There is a selector shaft seal leak in the trans which isn’t a disaster but needs pan off to change.
Spheres and strut top bushings would improve the ride and I think the Lang body might ride better if these were new.
Central locking non functioning and this pleasure is one I’ll have to learn again.
She will get new nozzles and tidy up of the fuelling system.

Unfortunately I also have to work and it was bought the same week we had a new baby arrive.
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Previously: 1977 300D, 1979 300TD, 1982 280SE, 1988 560SEL

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Post by mathuisella » Mon 28 May, 2018 10:12 am

Julian, is the professionalism in the concrete industry good or bad ? dismayed could go either way :P

I got the nozzles cleaned in a ultrasonic bath and well, they're reusable :O they're that good.

This is old original injectors uncleaned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdeRmIUI4pE


this is now old injectors cleaned note the sound difference once the air in the line is gone half way through the video.


So it is possible to clean and reuse old injectors
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Post by Boyracer » Wed 30 May, 2018 2:37 pm

'That's wonderful, Julian.

I was only thinking over the weekend that it had been ages since I last heard of a LWB for sale, or anyone even talking about them.

Enjoy the car!
Cheers,
Michael

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Post by markb » Wed 30 May, 2018 8:08 pm

Interesting find Julian and welcome back to the world of 123's..would be funny to park a CE next to a Lang to see proportion differences.. :whistle:
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Re: Guess what I bought

Post by Dweezil » Sun 03 Jun, 2018 3:38 pm

No-one's congratulated Julian on becoming a dad yet...

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Post by julian » Thu 07 Jun, 2018 7:02 pm

Dweezil wrote:
Sun 03 Jun, 2018 3:38 pm
No-one's congratulated Julian on becoming a dad yet...
Dweezil
Keep on topic thanks :dance:

Once I start tearing down I’ll post progress. I have exams in winter which will delay commencement.
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Previously: 1977 300D, 1979 300TD, 1982 280SE, 1988 560SEL

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