Check your steering coupling
- John Green
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Check your steering coupling
The MB Spares has recently removed this coupling and shaft assembly from a W123. we were surprised to see it and have since looked at a few other cars and some have small cracks in them. This the coupling in the middle of the column, you need to remove the trim under the dash to check it. So this post is a service to all W123 owners and will be made a sticky so it stays at the top of the list.
Go and check your steering column coupling. NOW.
Go and check your steering column coupling. NOW.
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Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
John Green, Member Institute Automotive Mechanical Engineers
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Re: Check your steering coupling
Interesting that you have had a few near failures - it's a part that is very well protected from the elements etc. Is this more of an issue for cars with high kms or that have done country driving? Or is it a case of the rubber just aging?
David
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1965 W110 190c - Mittelrot
1963 W110 190c - Custom Wagon Conversion (work in progress)
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1967 W111 230S - Horizontblau
1965 W110 190c - Mittelrot
1963 W110 190c - Custom Wagon Conversion (work in progress)
1983 W123 280E - About as modern as I dare to go (rolling resto project)
+ other classics
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Re: Check your steering coupling
Car it came from was a well serviced car with 260k on it, spent most of its life in Sydney, so at a guess not much different to many other W123's out there.pastelgrey300D wrote:Interesting that you have had a few near failures - it's a part that is very well protected from the elements etc. Is this more of an issue for cars with high kms or that have done country driving? Or is it a case of the rubber just aging?
Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
John Green, Member Institute Automotive Mechanical Engineers
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Re: Check your steering coupling
John Green wrote:Car it came from was a well serviced car with 260k on it, spent most of its life in Sydney, so at a guess not much different to many other W123's out there.pastelgrey300D wrote:Interesting that you have had a few near failures - it's a part that is very well protected from the elements etc. Is this more of an issue for cars with high kms or that have done country driving? Or is it a case of the rubber just aging?
fire truck, that's why it spend half it's life travelling up and down parrammata road, twice a day :/
I swear the idiot with no foresight who blocked the completion of the M4 all the way into the CBD because of "highway noise" regrets it now..... instead of some 'woosh' noise with the sound dampeners/walls you hear everything from bicycles to 18 wheeler trucks going over every pot hole...
and they cannot close the road and repair it because it's the only west bound way into the city.
And the logistics that it crosses a few councils so they blame each other for the roads faults.
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Re: Check your steering coupling
Finally inspected my steering coupling today. Looked good all around it, no cracks, phew! :occasion5:
Cheers,
Dan
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Dan
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Re: Check your steering coupling
Is this a DIY job inside the cabin?
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Re: Check your steering coupling
Not exactly. It is a DIY job under the bonnet adjacent to the firewall.
Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.
'83 W123 300D 325000km (Wife's car Josephine - sold).
'84 W123 300D replaced good OM617 912 with OM617 952 and enjoyed having good acceleration for the first time since first driving a 300D in 2002
'86 W124 300D sold
'85 W123 300CD, 275 000km (Fatmobile) rebuilt turbodiesel transplanted into 280CE (SOLD)
'99 W202 C250 Turbodiesel
'98 W202 C250 Turbodiesel
'06 Ssanyong Musso Crew Cab 2WD Ute (OM662 diesel and Auto Transmission)
'00 Ford Courier Crew Cab 2.5TD
'06 Ssanyong Musso Crew Cab 4WD Ute (OM662 diesel and Auto Transmission)
'04 Ssanyong Musso Crew Cab 4WD Tray back Ute (OM662 diesel and Auto Transmission)
'83 W123 300D 325000km (Wife's car Josephine - sold).
'84 W123 300D replaced good OM617 912 with OM617 952 and enjoyed having good acceleration for the first time since first driving a 300D in 2002
'86 W124 300D sold
'85 W123 300CD, 275 000km (Fatmobile) rebuilt turbodiesel transplanted into 280CE (SOLD)
'99 W202 C250 Turbodiesel
'98 W202 C250 Turbodiesel
'06 Ssanyong Musso Crew Cab 2WD Ute (OM662 diesel and Auto Transmission)
'00 Ford Courier Crew Cab 2.5TD
'06 Ssanyong Musso Crew Cab 4WD Ute (OM662 diesel and Auto Transmission)
'04 Ssanyong Musso Crew Cab 4WD Tray back Ute (OM662 diesel and Auto Transmission)
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Re: Check your steering coupling
This is under the dash, isn't it?
Lower photo. Point 4. Seems to be a simple unbolt job?
Any links to DIY info if not in FSM?
Lower photo. Point 4. Seems to be a simple unbolt job?
Any links to DIY info if not in FSM?
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Re: Check your steering coupling
There are two joint, one under the dash and the other where the steering column joins the steering box.
Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
John Green, Member Institute Automotive Mechanical Engineers
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Re: Check your steering coupling
Are they both 1234620346?
John Green wrote: ↑Thu 14 Dec, 2017 7:30 am There are two joint, one under the dash and the other where the steering column joins the steering box.
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Re: Check your steering coupling
When I put the turbo into the 300D, I found that the exhaust was very close to the steering box. There were no issues though, until I removed it for installation in the 280CE. I found that the flex coupling for the steering had degraded with the rubber melted around its periphery, mainly in the "straight ahead" position.
The 280E had a heat shield there to protect the coupling from exhaust heat.
I retained the heat shield when the OM617A went in.
The 280E had a heat shield there to protect the coupling from exhaust heat.
I retained the heat shield when the OM617A went in.
Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.
'83 W123 300D 325000km (Wife's car Josephine - sold).
'84 W123 300D replaced good OM617 912 with OM617 952 and enjoyed having good acceleration for the first time since first driving a 300D in 2002
'86 W124 300D sold
'85 W123 300CD, 275 000km (Fatmobile) rebuilt turbodiesel transplanted into 280CE (SOLD)
'99 W202 C250 Turbodiesel
'98 W202 C250 Turbodiesel
'06 Ssanyong Musso Crew Cab 2WD Ute (OM662 diesel and Auto Transmission)
'00 Ford Courier Crew Cab 2.5TD
'06 Ssanyong Musso Crew Cab 4WD Ute (OM662 diesel and Auto Transmission)
'04 Ssanyong Musso Crew Cab 4WD Tray back Ute (OM662 diesel and Auto Transmission)
'83 W123 300D 325000km (Wife's car Josephine - sold).
'84 W123 300D replaced good OM617 912 with OM617 952 and enjoyed having good acceleration for the first time since first driving a 300D in 2002
'86 W124 300D sold
'85 W123 300CD, 275 000km (Fatmobile) rebuilt turbodiesel transplanted into 280CE (SOLD)
'99 W202 C250 Turbodiesel
'98 W202 C250 Turbodiesel
'06 Ssanyong Musso Crew Cab 2WD Ute (OM662 diesel and Auto Transmission)
'00 Ford Courier Crew Cab 2.5TD
'06 Ssanyong Musso Crew Cab 4WD Ute (OM662 diesel and Auto Transmission)
'04 Ssanyong Musso Crew Cab 4WD Tray back Ute (OM662 diesel and Auto Transmission)
- Astro-Benz777
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Re: Check your steering coupling
Is this just an issue that effects the W123 series or also the W116/126 series that ran concurrent?
The reason I ask is that I know the W126 coupling looks very similar (generally speaking) however is located more inside the cabin under the dash/above the pedals as opposed to where you described the W123's was located.
I guess you couldn't conclusively answer what the cause was, whether failure of the part from heat due to location, age/general wear, possible previous front end collision, part material flaw etc etc really.... because that might eliminate the possibility of it being an issue that effects other models.
Nonetheless, the next time I'm tinkering in that area of my car, you can be dam sure I'll be checking it out.
What would be the result of "Catastrophic Failure"?
(Stupid question I guess but I can't seem to picture it)
The reason I ask is that I know the W126 coupling looks very similar (generally speaking) however is located more inside the cabin under the dash/above the pedals as opposed to where you described the W123's was located.
I guess you couldn't conclusively answer what the cause was, whether failure of the part from heat due to location, age/general wear, possible previous front end collision, part material flaw etc etc really.... because that might eliminate the possibility of it being an issue that effects other models.
Nonetheless, the next time I'm tinkering in that area of my car, you can be dam sure I'll be checking it out.
What would be the result of "Catastrophic Failure"?
(Stupid question I guess but I can't seem to picture it)
W126's: truly the last real Benz (IMHO)
FORMER FAMILY:
1989 300SE (W126) Midnight Blue, Blue/Grey Interior (Gearhardt)
1982 380SE (W126) Thistle Green, Tan Interior (Sherman)
CURRENT DAILY DRIVE & BELOVED FAMILY MEMBER
1984 280SE (W126) Thistle Green, Tan Interior (Hilda...after my late Gran)
FORMER FAMILY:
1989 300SE (W126) Midnight Blue, Blue/Grey Interior (Gearhardt)
1982 380SE (W126) Thistle Green, Tan Interior (Sherman)
CURRENT DAILY DRIVE & BELOVED FAMILY MEMBER
1984 280SE (W126) Thistle Green, Tan Interior (Hilda...after my late Gran)