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Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by Power Torque » Wed 08 Jul, 2015 2:11 pm

Hi Guys,

Just finished my E63. Managed to get around the 603 HP out of the M156 engine.

Look forward to your thoughts.
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Re: Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by T-Modell » Wed 08 Jul, 2015 5:23 pm

Where did you find the extra hp? Maybe I start searching too :laughing6:
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Re: Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by Power Torque » Thu 09 Jul, 2015 2:33 pm

Hi Thomas,

We remapped the ECU, with fine tune on the Dyno.
Installed larger throttle body
Installed larger air intake
Installed high flow dry carbon performance air filters
Installed high flow headers
Installed true down pipes (de-cat)
Installed upgrade performance valve-body (gearbox)
Installed upgrade clutch pack for the 722.9 trans
Installed upgrade TCU in trans
Installed upgrade shift pistons + seals in trans
Installed Limited Split Diff (LSD)

If you interested, keen to help you out.

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Re: Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by CraigB » Thu 09 Jul, 2015 9:39 pm

Welcome - Impressive to increase 100hp or so on AMG specialist built engine - but in researching what the standard hp was i see how the same engine was basically detuned in the ECU of a C63 because they didn't want people to get more hp for less money....... so it is not all about HP for them, its still marketing. I geuss too there is a fuel economy factor to it all - have you checked how they compare? Not suggesting you would be worried about economy with so much HP to play with. And how did you determine the 603 -on dyno is that RWHP? That is impressive as the 500 or so standard is flywheel i assume.

Interesting though - main HP difference apart from ECU is intake and exhaust - much like the M117 all those years ago. I'm sure all the trans work is important, but doesn't actually increase hp - although if it is RWHP then could be less loss? And no LSD standard? Guess it just relies on traction control but hat is about taking power away and not putting it down. I'm sure its a fun car to drive.
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Post by T-Modell » Thu 09 Jul, 2015 9:51 pm

Well it's impressive, but what for (if I may ask)? 0-100 will not improve imho, as you can't get the power on the road in 1st/2nd gear properly. This is pretty clear, when you look at the W212 AMG which is available with 4wd ... significantly better acceleration. Vmax shouldn't be interesting for you. Reliability? I wonder, but 80 or 100 hp per litre shouldn't make a big difference. I know someone here, who has modified his C63 (457hp standard) to around 530hp, but 600hp is pretty impressive. New E-Class next year will probably hit the 600 as well.

Did you measure acceleration?

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Re: Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by Power Torque » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 10:43 am

Yes it is indeed lots of fun to drive...... :cya:

This E63 is stock standard 514hp on the crank, and the achieved 603hp is on the crank as well.
Dyno run measured 307km/h top speed, but trans cooling wasn't able to keep up, not sure if it can on the public road though.... ( we will never know...)

0-100 in 4 sec
0-200 in 12.1

Gearbox and drive train is pretty much bullet proof now, which is a good thing looking at the Torque running through it.

And Thomas your are right with the C63's, we've done a couple of the earlier versions of the W204, and all around the 550hp mark.

BTW this E63 is for sale at the moment, as we having a new AMG project coming in from the UK soon.

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Post by T-Modell » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 4:28 pm

Power Torque wrote:...
Dyno run measured 307km/h top speed, but trans cooling wasn't able to keep up, not sure if it can on the public road though.... ( we will never know...)

...
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Re: Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by kimrh » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 10:48 pm

Not sure the point of it all in Australia - the power game other than bragging rights as can't use it other than turning it into a track warrior.
Would be fun in Europe on the open speed highways though
My past life with chasing power/superchargers/turbo's - all it got me was into trouble with the law!! - in particular speeding fines as too tempting to put the boot in and wet weather was a complete no go at all and the car stayed in the garage to keep me alive.
I am glad i moved on from the big ego power hunting game and settled into old school V8 cruising for the street - much more enjoyable and passengers are much more content
I loath to think back how much cash i burnt over the years chasing power - If it had been sunk into old classics instead - i would have made a shitload of money on appreciation and not depreciation
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Re: Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by T-Modell » Sat 11 Jul, 2015 2:08 am

kimrh wrote:...- all it got me was into trouble with the law!! - in particular speeding fines as too tempting to put the boot in and wet weather was a complete no go at all and the car stayed in the garage to keep me alive.
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Kim,
I agree with what you say ... that's why the E63 needs the speed limiter, 160.000 kms, no points. The rear-wheel-drive E63 cannot get the power on the road in dry condition, but on wet you're done, even in third gear. Last autumn, I had a long Autobahn stretch back home, road works, I drove 80km/h. At the end of it, there was like an S-shaped left-right curve and no limit afterwards. I put the foot down, not even kick-down, car switched from 6th to 3rd gear and without ESP I would have made a nice 360° turn :whistle: ...

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Re: Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by Power Torque » Sat 11 Jul, 2015 7:50 am

Kim, Thomas,

Yes indeed, we would not recommend to switch the ESP off outside the race track.... :angryfire:
But on the track, its still good old school fun. :violent3:

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Re: Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by Mercmad » Wed 15 Jul, 2015 7:46 am

This guy,Vasily, races a bit in Russia where apparently the police dont give a damn about how fast you drive .. His car has a reputed 700 horsepower with Renntec upgrades but only manages a 11.68 1/4 mile ,which is still faster than a lambo adventador :laughing6:
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Post by Mercmad » Wed 15 Jul, 2015 7:58 am

and right in the middle of London..(Sloane street)
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Post by Power Torque » Wed 15 Jul, 2015 9:05 am

Yeahhhhh. :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:
Cool stuff alright.

We've got the Renntech gear in our product line as well.

The 603HP in the post is fitted with the Weistec gear.
The next project we are doing is going to be a C63 Coupe were we will fit an stage 3 supercharger on it.

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Post by Mercmad » Wed 15 Jul, 2015 10:48 pm

It would be interesting know where they can drive them to the limits in OZ .Gone are the days when I could sit on 200 for ages up the motorway and only see the occasional cop.

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Post by T-Modell » Thu 16 Jul, 2015 1:46 am

Mercmad wrote:It would be interesting know where they can drive them to the limits in OZ .Gone are the days when I could sit on 200 for ages up the motorway and only see the occasional cop.
So we can identify your age now ... you're young enough to having already a car that drives 200 and old enough that the cops in Oz didn't care ... hmmmmm :laughing6:

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Post by Power Torque » Thu 16 Jul, 2015 5:40 am

Hahaw,... :dance:
Thats why we have our office/shop at the race track, unlimited testing without getting in trouble.

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Re: Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by CraigB » Thu 16 Jul, 2015 10:12 am

That sounds like a dream job! When i worked in the UK one of my colleagues best mates worked as a test driver for Prodrive who did development work for companies, many of which you would think would do their own work like BMW etc. Had some very rapid trips in very rapid vehicles... on public roads but he seemed to do a remarkable job of avoiding the law, and other cars for that matter. I thought that was a dream job.... can imagine the interview!
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Re: Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by Power Torque » Thu 16 Jul, 2015 11:36 am

Sometimes it is indeed, but sometimes very very very..... long nights, if cars has to be finished before the race weekend. :director:

We did a ML63 AMG (W166) with the 5.5ltr biturbo M157 not long ago, and we managed to get around 665HP out oh the engine with a full Renntech performance pack on it.

See http://www.powertorquenz.com/projects/m ... ance-pack/

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Post by Mercmad » Thu 16 Jul, 2015 12:03 pm

The pics of the ML look like they were taken in Taupo. Right?. my Dad owned a garage there years ago, the Lake motordrome, up the end of the main St.

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Post by Power Torque » Thu 16 Jul, 2015 1:07 pm

Yes that's correct.
We are based in Taupo

Anyone coming to the Speed Show this weekend in Auckland??
If so, please come and visit us, as we will have a beautiful Aston Martin DBS (6ltr V12) on our stand.

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Re: Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by jumborx » Thu 06 Dec, 2018 2:05 pm

Wow thats some big hp figures being quoted. Id say that hp at the crank which calculated by the dyno and not wheel hp, still a big number so well done.

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Re: Custom built 603 Horse Power E63 AMG (W211 with M156)

Post by dreadnought » Sat 29 Dec, 2018 2:50 pm

Very impressive, well done, regards

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