Beru brand spark plug leads fitment confusion

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Beru brand spark plug leads fitment confusion

Post by Cream 280SE » Fri 27 Apr, 2018 5:26 pm

Hello all

A box of Beru spark plug leads arrived today.

I went to fit the first lead. Now.. the lead does not seem to fit over that little screw on lug thing on the top of the spark plug,

If I unscrew it, it fits, but the lead has to be pushed right down and it does not seem snug.

The same applies at the other end on the distributor cap.

Do I unscrew those lugs on the distributor cap as well, which is a brown colour cap, not Bosch brand.?

Thanks for any advice

Regards

Daz

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Re: Beru brand spark plug leads fitment confusion

Post by Bartman4800 » Fri 27 Apr, 2018 7:12 pm

There are 2 kinds of spark plug caps ( I assume your leads came with caps)

1 Caps that fit on spark plugs with a little adapter on the end, usually made of aluminium
2 Caps that fit on the metric thread on the end of the spark plug

See here:

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=spar ... WlcgdFvUM:

Some spark plugs come with a removable adapter, sometimes it is integral.

My hunch is your caps are made for an adapter, and you are trying to push it onto the thread (which is a loose fit)

Soopercheap might have some loose adapter for you.

The fit on the dizzy cap is different than the plug side. Not sure what is going on there...

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Re: Beru brand spark plug leads fitment confusion

Post by Cream 280SE » Fri 27 Apr, 2018 7:21 pm

Hi, yes my NGK BP6E S comes with a connector that can be screwed on and off.

If the connector is attached,the Beru leads will not go on.

If I unscrew them, the lead certainly goes over the bare thread of the spark plug, BUT feels like it is not snug, which may result in poor connection??

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Re: Beru brand spark plug leads fitment confusion

Post by Bartman4800 » Fri 27 Apr, 2018 7:35 pm

If you look inside a cap that goes onto a threaded end, you will see a small round hole in a piece of brass, and a little spring pin cross ways (looks like a paper clip)

The other type has a larger hole made of pressed steel.

I think you have the latter, and it needs a harder push (could be the rubber is creating a lot of friction, use some silicone spray)

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Re: Beru brand spark plug leads fitment confusion

Post by Cream 280SE » Fri 27 Apr, 2018 8:08 pm

Ok, thanks Bart

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Re: Beru brand spark plug leads fitment confusion

Post by Cream 280SE » Sun 29 Apr, 2018 7:32 pm

No, cannot get it on . Will ask for advice from supplier tomorrow.

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Re: Beru brand spark plug leads fitment confusion

Post by Cream 280SE » Sun 06 May, 2018 2:03 pm

Ok,

Removed existing Formula High Perfomance Ingnition cables yesterday .

Fitted brand new ZEF 470 Beru spark plug leads.

Turn car over today.... won’t kick over!!

Any suggestions??

Thanks

Darren

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Re: Beru brand spark plug leads fitment confusion

Post by Tony From West Oz » Sun 06 May, 2018 9:54 pm

"Won't kick over"
Do you mean that :
  • the engine will not turn?
  • the engine will not fire?
Have you checked the leads are going to the correct cylinder spark plugs?
With engine at TDC on compression stroke for Cyl #1, Confirm that #1 Spark plug lead is connected to the dizzy cap port where the rotor button id pointing to.
Then using the firing order, connect the other dizzy cap ports to the relevant spark plugs.
Check again.

Do you have fuel?
Do you have air?
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Re: Beru brand spark plug leads fitment confusion

Post by Cream 280SE » Mon 07 May, 2018 3:34 pm

Hi Tony

Engine started before new leads were on.

The engine turns over but no fire up.

Maybe I bumped something? I’ll put the old leads back on this week end and see if she starts again .

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Re: Beru brand spark plug leads fitment confusion

Post by Bartman4800 » Mon 07 May, 2018 4:10 pm

Check first if you actually get a spark on at least one spark lead.
If you get spark, it might be the installing order of your HT leads

If you don't get spark, try whether you get a spark from the central HT lead from the coil.
If you do get spark there, your dizzy cap or rotor might be faulty
If you don't get spark from your central HT lead, there is something wrong in the dizzy or between dizzy and coil.

Another option is, that you put your dizzy cap on rotated 180 deg...

It sounds like you need to call a friend.

It's also appreciated if you fill in the location on your profile. That way anyone local could chime in.

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1960 220 Sb Sedan "Zum Schlachten" (Early German Assembly, with a torsion bar spring for the bonnet) - Stored in Country WA
1981 Subaru Brumby 1.8 with Weber and 5-speed box "little utie" - Sold to another enthusiast!
2006 Ford Focus "daily driver"
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2011 Kia Sportage "Missus commuter Bus"
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