Can someone tell me why this is so cheap?

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Can someone tell me why this is so cheap?

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Post by bahnstormer109 » Thu 27 Jan, 2011 7:47 pm

Because its not in Australia. Everything is more expensive in Australia. This is the lucky country!
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Post by petermc236 » Thu 27 Jan, 2011 10:10 pm

Here is one I have been watching, a little more expensive but still seems cheap.
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Post by MR300TD » Thu 27 Jan, 2011 10:13 pm

My god that's unbelievably cheap... :bounce:
1980 W123 300TD - Auto - 526000 kms and getting better everyday.. (AUS)
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Post by John Green » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 2:11 pm

Red one is a 2+2, no soft top which is a little annoying when it rains...
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Post by MR300TD » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 4:57 pm


They have quite an inventory, check this which they sold already..
http://www.foxmotorsports.com/sales_acq ... 859_miles/

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Re: Can someone tell me why this is so cheap?

Post by Dweezil » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 5:11 pm

The average price for a half-decent 113 in the US at the moment is in the 40-50K range. When I first saw the ad I thought it must be one of those (0) feedback scammers, but saw the site and realised that the brown 113 was just the tip of the iceberg.

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Post by MR300TD » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 5:33 pm

Dweezil wrote:The average price for a half-decent 113 in the US at the moment is in the 40-50K range. When I first saw the ad I thought it must be one of those (0) feedback scammers, but saw the site and realised that the brown 113 was just the tip of the iceberg.

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It's incredible, i had to look at all the cars, really impressive, surely there must be some money in importing cars from canada, the dollar is pretty much parity with theirs, anyway great find.
1980 W123 300TD - Auto - 526000 kms and getting better everyday.. (AUS)
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Re: Can someone tell me why this is so cheap?

Post by skat66 » Sat 29 Jan, 2011 10:47 pm

There is a bit more to this than meets the eye.

Firstly you will see that Australia together with Europe and UK all appear to price their cars around the same for the Euro Spec Pagoda.
The US cars on the other hand are much cheaper. or so it seems. However there is/are huge difference in prices from super cheap and rusty examples to top of the line concourse ones for very high prices. You will find that a true decent daily driver with no rust is actually getting close to the Australian equivalent. Top notch concourse cars can be even more than here. The reality is that what you see and what you actually get is often very different. Having lived in the US a few years back and travelled there in the past couple of years for the sl113 Forum gathering, with out actually personally looking at the car it is almost impossible to judge whether it is good or bad, cheap or dear.

Having said that, several guys recently have imported very good Pagoda's from the US for reasonable prices. They are however worth considerably less here in LHD than RHD cars. They were built to the US spec with some of the pollution gear post 1967/8, the bumper over riders, different headlights and driving lights and turn signals, together with side marker lights. Sure these can all be taken out but you especially for Australia and UK, are left with a left hand drive that has only the European market left if you do all the changes.

Cheap, maybe, if you want a LHD US Spec car to drive here. Then again the LHD car first listed in this post looks like it would be a really good buy for a European wanting LHD.

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Re: Can someone tell me why this is so cheap?

Post by CraigB » Sun 30 Jan, 2011 12:09 am

I dont actually follow it that closely and not looking at selling - but maybe I should have some idea for insurance purposes - but I wonder what is a reasonable value for my car? Manual 69 280s 4 spd - no rust, just over 100k miles red on red, very good original condition (what you would expect at that mileage) but not concourse. Anybody suggest a range of values?
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Re: Can someone tell me why this is so cheap?

Post by skat66 » Sun 30 Jan, 2011 8:54 am

I have been looking out for a second Pagoda, this time an auto and one of the blue's so have had a look at a few over the past six months but I have seen nothing at this point that I would part with my money for.

If they are in good original condition, absolute minor rust or no rust whatsoever, they are usually $40k+ to $50k+ but some are asking as high as $70k, but not selling at that level. A good restored one, again not concourse is getting $60+ and up to $80k but I have not seen any sell at that either. A pristine concourse one, what ever the seller can get, but I have not seen one come on the Australian market. There was a UK one for UK Pound $125k!!! I have seen a concourse one in the US sell for USD$80k when the dollar was at $0.75
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Re: Can someone tell me why this is so cheap?

Post by CraigB » Sun 30 Jan, 2011 10:00 am

Thanks for that, I think I am at around the $50k mark and my philosophy with 'toys' is not to overinsure and take a bit of risk/ self insurance factor. I am pretty careful with my cars. If I hear of any good blue autos will let you know!
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Post by petermc236 » Mon 31 Jan, 2011 8:20 am

Red one is a 2+2, no soft top which is a little annoying when it rains...
May be a case of buyer beware. 2+2 and no soft top was not a problem in sunny California - but in Vancouver it rains every other day. :pray:
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Post by Mercmad » Sat 02 Apr, 2011 12:37 pm

And Vancouver.. not exactly a nice place. You won't find too many rust free cars of any description there.

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Re: Can someone tell me why this is so cheap?

Post by 91Bends » Mon 26 May, 2014 11:15 am

Hi Guys,

spent a little time looking at Pagoda's over the weekend. My wife pointed one out on the road and said, 'that's beautiful, I want one' so I took it on board. Almost always she's hosing down my great car ideas so when one's pre-approved its pretty valuable to me (pre approved list includes classic G-Wagen, 300SEL 6.3, & 190SL/300SL/Gullwing). Doesn't mean I'm in a hurry to buy - my car ambitions currently outweigh both finances and undercover storage but it doesn't hurt to keep looking.

Anyway, of the Pagoda's which ones are the pick? My father used to own one and said you really want a 280SL as they're already underpowered so get the biggest motor. I quite like the 250SL as well as they're rare and lets be honest, none of them are that quick anyway. I noticed a 2+2 250SL for sale in WA on carsales which caught my attention as it could at a pinch squeeze the whole family in.

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