Another new 250 S

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Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Tue 06 Aug, 2013 6:57 pm

250 S number 3! This one is a 1967 model I think and is a 4 speed manual!
I did not set out to try and corner the market on 250 S's, but it does now appear that way..... :think:
Flew over to melb on sunday and picked her up!
Has a couple of little things to fix but otherwise a good buy.

Driving through peak hour Melbourne on sunday arvo in the rain and a 108 with a recalcitrant gearbox plus throw in not really knowing where I was going was quite a task!! I had been warned about the 108 manual gearboxes and you have to be very firm, slow and precise - not ideal for heavy stop/ start driving. Much happier out on the open road! Took it down to Sorrento yesterday for an outing and went quite well. Only problem is slightly wandery steering - had a look under the front and nothing missing or hanging off as per my current 108, so could be something as simple as wheel alignment - will check it out this weekend.

Everything else works as it should, with very minor rust to both rear doors, but not really anything to worry about. Interior is very nice with couple of cracks to dash but all else good. I will replace the late model cd unit with something more fitting at some point and I am not a fan of the overly large early MB steering wheels, although this one is a very good example, something smaller will find it's way in there soon. May also look at some more supportive seats, did over 300 odd miles and my back feels it! The weather in melb and driving down the midlands in Tas was diabolical!! Rain, rain and more rain and then throw in some wind - savage cross winds on the midlands highway only exacerbated the wandery steering. Car sat on 60/ 65 mph easily :smile: even passed a few slower cars!!

Got home and jumped straight back into my E320, boy what a world of difference!! It does everything better, would love to put the mechanicals of an E320 into a 108 and some better seats - my idea of the perfect sedan......

So I have 4 Benzes now and I am already planning for the next one - I need a wagon now...... :whistle:

Some pics - will add some interior and engine pics at weekend - stashed away in my mum's garage for now.....
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Thanks to Ken for picking my up from the airport :smile:

Also called in the see Josh (eri67) on way through...

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by cuisses » Tue 06 Aug, 2013 7:40 pm

Looks great, your best W108 thus far, and a manual to boot. I seem to recall your left knee was, in your words, "stuffed", and that a manual of any kind was a no-go.
Have you been praying to Saint Roch, the patron saint of knee problems, or do they have good physio's in Tassie?

http://www.scborromeo.org/saints/roch.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Roch

Saint Roch also helps cure bubonic plague, but I guess even in Tasmania that is pretty rare these days.

[I have just noticed that he also the patron saint of tile-makers, gravediggers and second-hand dealers, in which case there should be a statue of him in Lyell Street.]
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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Tue 06 Aug, 2013 7:54 pm

Left knee is still "stuffed" which added to my melb traffic woes.
It is ok as long as you don't need to change gears :laughing6: midlands highway was fine!
Actually it appears to be ok in small doses - pain is only relative anyway......
I would never choose a manual for a daily driver and certainly not a 108 manual :whistle:

Indeed my best 108 to date, my grey one will be there one day.....

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by 70499 » Tue 06 Aug, 2013 8:34 pm

I gather this is "Wilson's" project car :occasion5:
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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Tue 06 Aug, 2013 8:54 pm

I actually picked him up from the kennel in it on the way home. He jumped straight onto the sheep skin covered front seats :smile:

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by markb » Tue 06 Aug, 2013 8:57 pm

Well done Adam...try collecting 4 women and I'm sure 4 Mercs will make your life easier LOL :naughty:

Curious to know whether you can change gears on the 4 speed without the clutch ? This was an old trick that you could use on VW Beetles, matching your gear changes with your revs. This could save your left knee perhaps ?
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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Tue 06 Aug, 2013 9:08 pm

I have not got deep enough pockets for one woman let alone 4!! :protest:

Most manuals should be able to be changed clutchless, much easier to go up than down though, probably not this 'box :think: maybe give it a try next time....

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Wed 07 Aug, 2013 8:42 am

Fuel economy check.

21.23 mpg or 12.89 l per 100km. Not bad considering most was melbourne traffic, will check at next fill what the open road with no traffic was like.

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by dagget » Wed 07 Aug, 2013 7:34 pm

That outstanding economy for a w108 especially a 250S and a great looking car just a shame it took 3 goes to get a good one. :whistle:

Amazed it was for sale for so long at a such a good price, destiny it was.
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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Wed 07 Aug, 2013 8:25 pm

Just went around to check on it :smile:
Looks even better after a day......

Has all the original books, etc and they are all in good condition. Has the original tool kit and even the wheel aligning tool still clipped into the rear of the boot and the wheel brace too!
Has been a well kept car.

Yep was a pretty good buy, you were just a bit slow dagget :laughing6:

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Thu 08 Aug, 2013 11:47 am

All original books, like new, even has MB world maps showing service location!! All in original holder!
Parts book, which should come in handy and book that shows all MB dealers throughout the world (back in the 60s)
Service book showing service history up to 63 566 miles which looks to have occured in 1975!! Bit of a gap to now........ oh well the car looks good!
Car now shows 65 000 miles - so assume 165 000 miles.

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Thu 08 Aug, 2013 11:49 am

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Re: Another new 250 S VIN check

Post by ANF » Tue 13 Aug, 2013 8:24 am

Hi All,

Is it possible to confirm production year fron the VIN?
If so can anyone out there check my VIN and confirm year (and anything else that may come up)?

108012 20-054956 white 4 speed man

Actually may as well check all 3....

108012 22-018466 Arabian grey auto

108012 22-008401 Graphite grey auto

Thanks

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by Stuart » Tue 13 Aug, 2013 8:12 pm

My 1966 250S is 108 012 22 010710 which indicates that your Graphite Grey came off the line a few months earlier.

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Tue 13 Aug, 2013 10:04 pm

From the VIN my Graphite Grey has always appeared to be an early build, with the newest one later and the Arabian Grey somewhere in the middle.....

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by Mercmad » Fri 16 Aug, 2013 7:28 am

If the car still has the original wheel,pull the horn pad off. Look carefully at the white metal in the hub. There is a date stamped in fine font there.DD/MM/YY .
That is the day the car rolled off the line. :coffee2:

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Fri 16 Aug, 2013 8:09 am

Mercmad wrote:If the car still has the original wheel,pull the horn pad off. Look carefully at the white metal in the hub. There is a date stamped in fine font there.DD/MM/YY .
That is the day the car rolled off the line. :coffee2:
Thanks Ron, I will check it out.

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by cuisses » Fri 16 Aug, 2013 10:06 pm

Mercmad wrote:If the car still has the original wheel,pull the horn pad off. Look carefully at the white metal in the hub. There is a date stamped in fine font there.DD/MM/YY .
That is the day the car rolled off the line. :coffee2:
I just looked at mine. I had done this before but for some reason I thought it was on the horn pad - and so found nothing. It is indeed on the metal hub, and in a tiny and very fine font, so much so that I had to photograph it and enlarge it to read the date with certainty.
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The same birthday as my daughter - only 32 years earlier.
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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by New123 » Fri 16 Aug, 2013 11:31 pm

If the car still has the original wheel,pull the horn pad off. Look carefully at the white metal in the hub. There is a date stamped in fine font there.DD/MM/YY .
That is the day the car rolled off the line. :coffee2:

I just looked at mine. I had done this before but for some reason I thought it was on the horn pad - and so found nothing. It is indeed on the metal hub, and in a tiny and very fine font, so much so that I had to photograph it and enlarge it to read the date with certainty.
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The same birthday as my daughter - only 32 years earlier.
A bit later than '67, eh? Makes me wonder if the same type of date stamp is also found on w114s of the same era. Must check mine, as I was told it was a '69 model by the seller, but the plates on the firewall led me to believe it's a '71 model. It would be nice to know exactly when it was made. :dontknow:
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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Sat 17 Aug, 2013 12:01 am

New123 wrote:A bit later than '67, eh?
Not my car. David's is a later model. Mine was first registered in dec 67 so it is either a 66 or 67 model - will look at steering wheel on sunday to confirm.

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Sun 18 Aug, 2013 5:23 pm

Damn, got busy doing other stuff and forgot to look at steering wheel :Doh:

More thorough check now - needs couple of tie rod ends and front wheel bearings. Front shocks could also do with replacing.
Oil change next weekend also on the list. Adjusting timing today and runs much better!
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Confirmed that the colour is just White - 050.

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by markb » Sun 18 Aug, 2013 5:35 pm

ANF wrote:Confirmed that the colour is just White - 050.
There is no better colour for a 108 than the (classic) white 050...ok I'm bias.. :dance:
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1987 S124 230TE Diamond Blue (2002-2007 Family cruiser)
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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Sun 18 Aug, 2013 5:40 pm

markb wrote:
ANF wrote:Confirmed that the colour is just White - 050.
There is no better colour for a 108 than the (classic) white 050...ok I'm bias.. :dance:
I agree, not usually a fan of white cars but it suits a 108 very well - was just hoping for a more MB name than "white"..... might have to call it Weiss.

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Thu 29 Aug, 2013 9:11 pm

cuisses wrote:I seem to recall your left knee was, in your words, "stuffed", and that a manual of any kind was a no-go.
Driving around today I really noticed this, even in our light traffic! Must have been fueled by adrenalin in Melb.... :whistle:

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Thu 29 Aug, 2013 9:15 pm

ANF wrote:Fuel economy check.

21.23 mpg or 12.89 l per 100km. Not bad considering most was melbourne traffic, will check at next fill what the open road with no traffic was like.

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dagget wrote:That outstanding economy for a w108 especially a 250S
Fuel economy update - some Melb traffic, some open road (Tassie) and some hobart "traffic"
Not a great deal of difference?!
Slightly improved to 12.3 l per 100km or 22.3 mpg........

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by thirstymerc » Fri 30 Aug, 2013 9:22 am

Mercmad wrote:
If the car still has the original wheel,pull the horn pad off. Look carefully at the white metal in the hub. There is a date stamped in fine font there.DD/MM/YY .
That is the day the car rolled off the line. :coffee2:


I just looked at mine. I had done this before but for some reason I thought it was on the horn pad - and so found nothing. It is indeed on the metal hub, and in a tiny and very fine font, so much so that I had to photograph it and enlarge it to read the date with certainty.

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The same birthday as my daughter - only 32 years earlier.
Awesome! Thats the same birthday as me too David. Except I was born in 1978 :king:
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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Tue 17 Sep, 2013 10:25 pm

Headlights "upgraded" to old style lenses and halogen globes - very bright now!
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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by eri67 » Wed 18 Sep, 2013 7:48 am

Looking good Adam!
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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Thu 19 Sep, 2013 2:05 pm

Cheers Josh!

Running a little better now too with new gaskets on carbies :dance:

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by markb » Thu 19 Sep, 2013 9:19 pm

Adam,

Looking good on both the car and more importantly the funds raising (over 3/5 of the way there)

Go the Brothers Benz !
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1987 S124 230TE Diamond Blue (2002-2007 Family cruiser)
1983 W126 280SE Champagne 106k Klms (Custodian in 2013)
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1988 W124 300E Diamond Blue (2016 project sold to fellow OzBenzer)

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Re: Another new 250 S

Post by ANF » Thu 19 Sep, 2013 9:32 pm

markb wrote:Adam,

Looking good on both the car and more importantly the funds raising (over 3/5 of the way there)

Go the Brothers Benz !
Thanks Mark!
I have just nudged over the 3/4 mark and getting very close to $4k :smile:
Only 3 weeks to go too!! :dance:

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