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500SEC Recomisioning

Post by Honey500 » Mon 31 Oct, 2016 1:17 pm

Hi All,

Long time reader first time poster.

I was reading a post and it's reply's from a couple of years back talking about the obsession created when one buys an SEC of any vintage. I spent the whole time thinking that I knew that feeling.

A little over 12 months ago I took a HUGE risk and brought at auction an 85 500sec. No keys no papers. I have become slightly obeessed with finding out it's history. It is an all matching numbers car and is as far as I can tell all original. As a 500 it is an import so the question is from where? By whom? And where was this made for? I have already been through vehicle imports with no record found. And SA motor reg have not been helpful. I had some help from a guy that got the last known plate for the car. What I believe from him is that it has always been an SA car and was likely quite new when it came in. I also believe it has worn low digit historic plates in it's time. I really have no other info so anything would be greatly appreciated.

Also looking for an opinion on the car. I am jusy not sure what it is worth. I think condition is pretty good but not the expert and there are not many 500sec that come up for sale and there is a huge variation in pricing for sec's that are for sale. Anyone interested in having a look at it, give me some more knowledge about the car? Is Craig B the man to talk to in SA?

On knowledge this car has a burl wood steering wheel center. On all cars I have seen for sale none of them have this does anyone know of this is an original option? It matches the rest of the timber so appears original.

I am also looking for some small parts and as people who probably have parts cars I wonder if you could help. I have an original jack but no tòol kit. A mate has suggested that they were removed from imports for quarantine reasons? None the less would be good to have an original wheel brace etc. Does anyone have one they are willing to part with? Happy to pay cash! Also needing some switch covers for the drivers side seat functions. All work but need the covers if anyone has one?

If you have not gussed I am thinking of selling Sadey. I love her dearly but don't really have the space or the money to give her the restoration she deserves (not in to half arsed jobs). Hence all the questions would love people opinions on it.

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Re: 500SEC Recomisioning

Post by pastelgrey300D » Mon 31 Oct, 2016 5:15 pm

Hi Stuart and welcome to Ozbenz. CraigB is very knowledgeable when it comes to these cars.

I did wreck a W126 a while back and may be able to help with the drivers seat switch knobs and I know I have a spare genuine wheel brace somewhere in the shed.

If you post your VIN no I could look up the datacard and see if that gives any info as to the origins of the car (if you don't want to post it publicly you can send me a PM once you've reached 5 posts).
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Post by Honey500 » Mon 31 Oct, 2016 5:31 pm

Thanks David,

Would be great to know more. I did run the vin through a link to I think the MB club Russia. I also got a data card from MB Adelaide and got some info from that but any help is greatly appreciated.

VIN is - WBD1260442A175729

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Post by pastelgrey300D » Mon 31 Oct, 2016 8:46 pm

Allrighty then, here's what the EPC says:

Sales designation: 500 SEC
Order number: 0 5 855 00099
Delivery date: 09 07 1985
Paint code 1: 172U ANTHRACITE GREY METALLIC
Equipment: 277A LEATHER MEDIUM RED
Engine no.: 117963 22 083609
Transmission: 722311 02 670066
Lamps: BOSCH

Option codes - decoded from here: http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~mtor/mbcodedsc.html

240 OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE INDICATOR
241 LEFT FRONT SEAT ELECTRICALLY ADJUSTABLE WITH MEMORY FEATURE.
242 RIGHT FRONT SEAT ELECTRICALLY ADJUSTABLE WITH MEMORY FEATURE.
251 BECKER RADIO MEXICO CASSETTE, FULL STEREO, ELECTRONIC
256 REAR AXLE WITH LIMITED-SLIP DIFFERENTIAL
260 ELIMINATION OF MODEL DESIGNATION ON REAR LID
286 LUGGAGE NETS ON FRONT SEAT BACKRESTS
410 ELECTRIC SLIDING ROOF
430 HEADRESTS IN THE REAR
440 TEMPOMAT (CRUISE CONTROL)
452 No code designation available
470 ANTI-LOCK BRAKING SYSTEM (ABS)
480 SELF-LEVELLING SUSPENSION
505 OUTSIDE REAR VIEW MIRROR, LEFT, ELECTRICALLY ADJUSTABLE (R.H.D.)
531 AUTOMATIC ANTENNA
543 SUN VISOR WITH VANITY MIRROR, ILLUMINATED, LEFT AND RIGHT
550 TRAILER COUPLING
581 AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL
615 611 + 613
(611: COURTESY LAMPS FOR FRONT AND REAR DOORS)
(613: LAMP UNIT, ASYMMETRICAL, L.H. TRAFFIC)
640 ALUMINIUM DISC WHEELS WITH RADIAL-PLY TIRES

Did not list a delivery country, or a code for one (625 is the option code for Aus delivered cars) - hope this helps!
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Post by Honey500 » Mon 31 Oct, 2016 9:08 pm

Thanks again David,
I had decoded a very similar option list but took me much longer than that and multiple sources so I suspect yours to be more accurate! I had read 625 as the aus delivered code. Good news is that Sadey still has all of those options, save for the upped 560 badge on the boot. Still has the original build plate but I could not find a country code.

When you get the chance let me know if you have / are willing to part with thoe bits and pieces
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Re: 500SEC Recomisioning

Post by CraigB » Mon 31 Oct, 2016 9:50 pm

Welcome Stuart. Values are difficult because there aren't that many cars that are for sale and changing hands, what people ask can be very different to sale. Supply of good cars is low, so a good car should demand a higher price and serious buyers should recognise just how much it costs to get a car spot on. There is some discussion on here where Carl in Melbourne had a healthy budget and was looking for a good car. His conclusion was there was very little correlation between asking price and condition after spending considerable money on having prepurchase inspections - but think of all the money he saved from not buying a shitbox!

From what i gather yours is a gen 2 500 that started in '85. Clues are the memory seats and outside temp gauge. This means it should have the good head with big valves etc and high compression that are desirable and engine really packs a punch. I think it was still happening then, but it could be a tourist import - order in advance, drive around europe for a while and then bring it home.

Guidance on value - to me its more about what you have to spend - how good is the paint, Rust, particularly put your hand up inside the boot and see if it is rusted under where the rear screen is - you can easily blow $10k on bodywork and paint - how good is leather, back of back seat etc - many more thousands can be swallowed there - wood and then mechanicals of course. is rear glass not delaminated? You can see how a $3k bargain can easily end up an expensive car.

I don't think the wood centre is factory but not uncommon accessory.

Any paperwork, receipts etc with car, stickers on window? Adelaide is not a big place and if you have a bit of spare time you could visit a few of the Benz specialists and see if they remember the car. I havent seen many red leather SECs so that might help.
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Post by Dean 560 SEC » Mon 31 Oct, 2016 9:56 pm

Any chance you could post some pics - it least it'll give us something to consider.

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Post by Honey500 » Mon 31 Oct, 2016 10:12 pm

Hi Craig,

Thanks for the reply. I did wonder about a tourist import. I also believe it to be a gen2 and was hopeful it would have some goodies, it does runs beautifully, but not an expert, some who have driven many 126's may disagree.

Mechanically the car is in good shape. I initially had it assessed and serviced by Krause Motors and they were very complementary about it, save for a misfire which has been sorted with a new set of leads. Krause did not indicate that they had any prior knowledge of it and at the time Bernie was still there and he has been working on 126's since he was an apprentice (never did find out where Bernie ended up).

Had the Tranny serviced by Main North Autos and he thought iw was in good shapes and would benefit from having the misfire sorted! Interesting story is that when I got the Car it had an old street directory in it with 2 addresses on a piece of paper. Both for transmission places. By coincidence a mate recommended MNA and it happened to be one of the places on that piece of paper. But sadly he did not recognize the car either.

Would love some suggestions on other MB specialists to speak with here in Adelaide.

Interior is in good shape, leather condition is good, needs some conditioning but good given its now 31 years old. Body is where there is money to be spent and that is where I don't think I can afford to spend $$ making it right. In saying this some of the fiddly stuff like the bright work is in good shape and would look great with a proper polish.

What is the value in a matching numbers car?

Would be happy to post some pics but need a flickr account I think. Or can I post directly in? Usually pretty good with making tech stuff work but could not get that part sorted!!
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Post by Dean 560 SEC » Mon 31 Oct, 2016 10:31 pm

You can add images to your posts by scrolling down the page where the 2 tabs are - Option & Upload Attachment. Click Upload, the click choose file.. Once you've selected the file, click 'add the file' repeat as necessary.

You'll need to size the images before you upload them to be less than 1900 x 1000. If they are to large it'll let you know.

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Post by CraigB » Mon 31 Oct, 2016 10:51 pm

photos will work now - you have just done your fifth post!

I've got a mental blank - happens when you get old - but a poster on here with the best W123 coupe i have ever seen, has worked for BEA for a very long time and remembers lots of stuff. Still mental blanks but the place at Findon worth an ask, Wanns on south road - talk to the right person and they may put your vin in their computer and see if past work done. Davide Frada at Mclaren Vale and Barry Green at Norwood. That's my brain drain for tonight.

Matching numbers not that rare because engines so reliable.

I am not sure who to suggest, but with bodywork it might be worth getting a quote if the rest is as good as it sounds. Even if you don't do it, if that is all it needs it might help buyers to do their sums.
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Post by Honey500 » Mon 31 Oct, 2016 11:54 pm

Thanks guys appreciate you taking the time and draining your evenings brain capacity! Appreciate the input on suggested people to call.

5 posts that makes sense thanks Craig. Now lets give Deans suggestion a try.....nope not working from the phone. Will try another method and get back to you.
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Post by Honey500 » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 12:27 am

Ok so I think it worked!
Think being the operative word. Need to reduce some size. Will post more tomorrow when sleep has been had.
Thanks again all.
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Post by CraigB » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 1:45 am

Its a nice straight original looking car so far from the pics.
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Post by T-Modell » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 2:11 am

CraigB wrote:Its a nice straight original looking car so far from the pics.
Craig,

that's cheating .. with 4 extra wheels on the front it's easy ... :laughing6:
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Post by Honey500 » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 9:53 am

Yeah forgive the dolly's.
No key =no steering and my paitent wife required it off the drive!!!!!!

Pushing it across grass was a killer.....
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Post by pastelgrey300D » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 10:41 am

Just noticed the option code:

550 TRAILER COUPLING

Does this mean a towbar? Seems unlikely someone would order a 500SEC with one - wonder if there is an alternative option code for this.

Mind you a 500SEC would be a perfectly capable tow car - and stranger things have happened:

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Post by CraigB » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 10:58 am

Such a cool photo - i hope that was in Australia!
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Post by Honey500 » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 11:01 am

Wow that is a unique tow vehicle. Almost as unique as a Gemini towing a tri axel cage trailer on a scale bigger than I had seen!

I think the tow bar option is accurate. while it does not have a tow bar there is a panel on the lower bumper that can be removed. I suspect if i looked there would be provisions for wireing and the tow bar
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Post by pastelgrey300D » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 11:06 am

Ahh fair enough. I reckon it must be one of those european style towballs with the long neck and it has just been removed and lost at some stage. Here's a page from the factory manual showing the cover - does it look like this:

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That Lambo with the trailer was in Sydney: https://www.motormag.com.au/news/1607/v ... ng-trailer

Love the trailer which must be worth about 1/1000th of the value of the car - the rusty 6x4 trailer has to be an Aussie institution! :laughing6:
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Post by Honey500 » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 12:35 pm

Yep that is exactly the panel on the rear. Does not seem to be the actual ball though. Perhaps lost like you suggest.
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Post by CraigB » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 12:48 pm

I guess you've had the spare out and had a look in around that area - that's where i would keep one. I've never seen one in the flesh and a rare option in Australia i would think.
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Post by Honey500 » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 1:31 pm

Yeah did have a hunt around the spare but can't remember if I actually took it out.

It is in having the alternator rebuilt so wi have to have a hunt when she gets home
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Post by T-Modell » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 6:56 pm

Here's one with a Ferrari :laughing6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUK8Rb8CG-Q

If you speak German, there's a classic from comedian "Bodo Bach"; he calls Ferrari Germany, tells them he inherited a F40 Ferrari from his uncle and wants to know, if a tow-bar can be fitted as he goes camping regularly :laughing6:
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Post by Honey500 » Tue 01 Nov, 2016 10:01 pm

Hi all,

Few More Pictures for your thoughts. Most I have are too large to post so have pulled these from the auction. Quality is not great but gives you an idea of what I am working with. Will have to take some more shots after I pick it up.
Any thought apprciated
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Post by McGavin » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 5:50 am

Looks gen 1 inside which would make sense with a 1985 delivery date and 117963 engine number, (although my 560 has a 1985 build date) but wearing the gen 2 body cladding? I love the colour scheme with the red interior, you've got a good looking car there.
My Sec came with that steering wheel centre, l replaced it because the burl was lifting on one edge.

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Post by Honey500 » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 8:20 am

I love the interior, red leather just adds class. My steering is chipped and cracked but have left it as thought it might be unique :Doh:
Every chance it is a gen1. When did they start gen 2? Build date is July 85 or does MB us a USA date format?
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Post by McGavin » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 8:37 am

I don't know the exact date, my 560 is a nov 1985 build, gen 2 Began with MY86 but that doesn't mean they weren't delivered in 1985, I don't know.
Gen 2 500 's have a 117965 engine number and individual power window switches in the centre console where as gen 1 have the switches in two strips and a 117963 engine number, but your exterior lower cladding looks gen 2, without the ridges gen 1 had.
I would be enquiring about rust, price etc as I love the colour scheme, but with 11 cars I hold fears for my wife's long term presence and at the end of the day that's more important..... but wow anthracite and red interior how goods that. ;)

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Post by Honey500 » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 8:51 am

Only 11 cars thats not much! But yes you like I value your marriage or at least a harmonious house.

It does have individual window switches and L side power mirror. Also outaide temp sensor and display which suggests gen2. But your right 117963 does suggest gen1. it is the original engine.....have strained the neck and eyes to cite that.

Colour scheme is a great combo. In all honesty the body looks better in pictures than it does up close. It is straight but showing some age....there is also some of the dreaded rust. But i am sure with 11 cars that would not scare you?!
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Post by McGavin » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 9:36 am

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Gen 1

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Gen 2

What colour are your rocker covers, silver gen 1, black gen 2?
The diff mount and centers are different between generations but I have no pictures at hand.

Edit, here we go gen 2 diff.

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Post by Honey500 » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 9:56 am

Silver covers. I was of the understanding that black was an indication of it being a 560 along with twin air intakes on the air box. My research could be off though. Not sure on the diff, have not analysed it. Car was optioned with an LSD
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Post by Honey500 » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 10:01 am

So if it is a gen1 what are the power and mechanical setup?
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Post by kimrh » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 10:12 am

Yes the Diff will be the easiest way of telling
The Gen1 diff has different style driveshafts where they connect to the diff and the rear mount design is different and they have 4 mount bolts above the diff
See Pic of Gen1 diff
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Post by McGavin » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 10:15 am

Twin air intakes are all 560 and the HV (high compression) gen 2 500 and 420 motors. All Gen 2 500 and 420 have black rocker covers.
I believe there where higher compression versions of the gen 1 motors up from 8. Something to 1 into the 9's , but not the 10.1 of the gen 2 euros with the tri y's.
Higher compression versions have HV or the specific comp ratio stamped after the engine number.

You would have to identify your motor then google to get specific output figures, but the 10.1 500HV is listed at 195kw.

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Post by Honey500 » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 12:28 pm

Ok then some things to check out when it comes back from the auto elec. But no tri Y's, twin air or black covers so looks likely to be a gen1

Kimrh- thanks for the heads up on the diff, will check this over when I get it back. should have looked at that. Plenty of time spent under the rear end changing the fuel pump and lines!!!!
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Post by Dean 560 SEC » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 1:02 pm

Bumpers and window switches in the console look like a Gen 1 to me.
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Post by chucke » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 8:04 pm

I checked the kiev decoder link because I thought they usually have destination. Turns out this car went to Malaysia

http://carinfo.kiev.ua/cars/vin/mercede ... u=0aor3mo0

Had to send the link from my phone because I'd exhausted my vin checks trying to find out more about that amg 500sec in Qld.

Anyway, It does look like a gen one also because I think door cards are different on gen 2 but the Asian market cars often got the cladding updated afterwards, a bit of a status thing appear to have a newer model. The wood horn pad is also a popular upgrade on Asian market cars so I was initially looking for the option 677 which is tropical battery.
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Looking forward to seeing the progress.

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Post by CraigB » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 9:36 pm

And for the record, I agree with posts re gen 1 - my only defense is that when i made those comments i hadn't seen any photos! But it does have some 'hybrid' features from what you normally expect to see which is not surprising given its 1985 date. Looking close at the photos it does have the '1' and '2' buttons for the memory seats that i have come to expect to see in Gen 2 and i assume also the temp gauge. But agree re the gen 1 interior. The really important feature is that engine and that is confirmed from the engine number it is the Gen 1. Still a nice looking car though and does look from outside very gen 2. I think that is really common in asia for the updating process and so easy to change wheels and panels - the white gen 1 i have has it done.

Where are you Honey? ( that sentence seems odd for some reason!) I think you indicated you wanted to sell? Esp if any interest here I would be happy to have a 'no vested interest' look and opinion. Will be away in SE for a few days from tomorrow.
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Post by Honey500 » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 11:18 pm

Wow there is a huge welth of knowledge here, thanks again for taking the time. Craig forgiven for getting the gen 1 v gen 2 wrong. Yes for some 'hi Honey' does seem odd but you get used to it. It does have the temp sensor and it does work. Note the cable sticking out of the bumper I am pretty sure is the sensor.

Craig will take you up on that offer. Should get the car back from the auto elec tomorrow. I am off work this week but if your in the SE that wont work. I am in the North East but happy to travel (any excuse to take Sadie out). Perhaps PM or email me and we can workout a convenient time and place.

Carl thanks for the info on delivery. I had linked to kiev from here awhile ago but I am sure it did not have a country of delivery, but may have overlooked it. Malaysia was not where I expected. I certainly did some research before buying (well as much as you can before the end of an auction). Knowing what I am doing....not 100% on this. You know what they say though no risk no reward!!

So if no one really recognises it I take it no one here saw the auction at the time?

Anything else I should know about Malaysian delivered cars? Perhaps that unknown code on the data card is the wood horn cover?
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Re: 500SEC Recomisioning

Post by chucke » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 11:25 pm

No problem, it's all very interesting.

Code 452 is a two tone horn I believe


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Post by Honey500 » Thu 03 Nov, 2016 8:47 am

Carl I think your spot on...452 was the code on the data card that was unknown. So a Pretty safe bet I rekon.
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Post by Honey500 » Mon 07 Nov, 2016 9:14 pm

Ok so perhaps we can put this one to bed. Took so shots of the diff as best I could we out getting the stands out. I think this shows the 4 bolt mount meaning it is a gen1. Kim any thoughts?
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Post by CraigB » Mon 07 Nov, 2016 9:59 pm

Yes Gen 1. That tag on the diff between the bolts is LSD - has stamped in it telling you to use lsd oil. Go just a bit lower on the actual face of the housing that is not covered by the backing plate. Should be a number stamped in. My money is on 2.24 that most gen 1 500 had, although being a very late car you never know, could be something else. Gen 2 had 2.49 or something like that and probably a bit better ratio if you don't have an autobahn.
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Post by Honey500 » Mon 07 Nov, 2016 11:33 pm

Thanks Craig, think that is a job for when I can get it up a little bit more. As I am sure your aware it is pretty tight under there when it is still on the ground!
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Post by Honey500 » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 8:27 am

So I started looking at the drivers power window the other night hoping it was a switch issue that I could change out...except because it is gen 1 it is not individual switches :Doh: Anyway I discovered this splice off of the switch plug (sorry pic is not great). It comes off what I would call pin 4 for the drivers window. The wire runs up the console to the control unit for the CD stacker. I assume that this is a power line for the stacker. Question is whether this might be stopping the winhdow working? Or am I up for a new motor?
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Post by pastelgrey300D » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 10:38 am

One issue with the 1st gen power window switches is that the terminals and contacts inside the switch can become burnt/dirty. You can dismantle these swtiches and then using fine wet and dry sandpaper clean the terminals back to bright metal and file flat any rough spots. Clean and reassemble using vaseline to lubricate the moving parts.

Also check your fuses - the fuses on these cars can corrode at the point where they connect into the terminals in the fuse box - i.e. the fuse is not blown and looks OK but the corrosion can cause faults.

I recall a 380SEL that came in with power windows working intermittently - the cause was both the switches and the fuse - the fuse had a corona shaped hole burned through each end where it connected into the brass terminals of the fuse box. Once we replaced the fuse and cleaned the fuse box terminals and dismantled and cleaned the terminals in the switches all 4 power windows were working perfectly.
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Post by Honey500 » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 11:13 am

Hi David,

You could be spot on. I looked at the fuse a while ago, from memory the fuse for the drivers sidewindow also does something else that is working...I think. Will give the switches a good clean up and see how that goes.

How did byou go with the wheel brace etc that we were discussing a couple of weeks back. PM me if you have one that you are happy to part with

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Post by ngruzevs » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 1:17 pm

I may have a spare Gen 1 power window block if you need one.
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Post by Honey500 » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 3:30 pm

Hopefully won't need to take you up on that offer but will keep it in mind!

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Post by ngruzevs » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 4:25 pm

No worries, just PM me if you need it.
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Post by Dean 560 SEC » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:26 pm

Honey500 wrote:Hi David,

You could be spot on. I looked at the fuse a while ago, from memory the fuse for the drivers sidewindow also does something else that is working...I think. Will give the switches a good clean up and see how that goes.

How did byou go with the wheel brace etc that we were discussing a couple of weeks back. PM me if you have one that you are happy to part with

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