Differential noise " whine".
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Differential noise " whine".
For ex amount of years,
I've been hearing a noise which at 1st assumed&thought it was driveline related,
So replaced the center bearing with housing (genuine stealership MB one),
Noise is still there,
Got someone to sit in the far back seat,
Where he seemed to think it's rear axle/hub/wheel bearing noise?......
The noise is constant whether accelerating or decelerating,
Same person felt where the pinion is&said it felt hot,
Can the pinion bearing both possibly be the cause&if so,
Is it possible to replace without having to remove the differential?.
I've been hearing a noise which at 1st assumed&thought it was driveline related,
So replaced the center bearing with housing (genuine stealership MB one),
Noise is still there,
Got someone to sit in the far back seat,
Where he seemed to think it's rear axle/hub/wheel bearing noise?......
The noise is constant whether accelerating or decelerating,
Same person felt where the pinion is&said it felt hot,
Can the pinion bearing both possibly be the cause&if so,
Is it possible to replace without having to remove the differential?.
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Re: Differential noise " whine".
It seems that special tools are required - after removing the differential.
Might be easier to find a whole real axle assembly and hope the diff doesn't whine.
Might be easier to find a whole real axle assembly and hope the diff doesn't whine.
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Re: Differential noise " whine".
Stuff it with Banana peels.
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Re: Differential noise " whine".
Can anyone recommend a MB differential specialist preferably in either north-east/northern or outer eastern suburbs of Melbourne to do the repair?.
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Re: Differential noise " whine".
Would changing to a heavier grade (viscosity) differential oil get rid of the noise?,
As i've had the differential oil changed MB recommend changing it every 90000 km's?.
As i've had the differential oil changed MB recommend changing it every 90000 km's?.
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Re: Differential noise " whine".
Either of the Lennox motors - Bulleen or Thomastown - Take your pick ....
There is a gazillion of the W202 at wreckers - may be cheaper just to replace a whole rear end ?
There is a gazillion of the W202 at wreckers - may be cheaper just to replace a whole rear end ?
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W123 1982 300CD Retro fitted OM617A Turbo - Mine
W123 1984 300TD English 5 Speed Manual
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Re: Differential noise " whine".
All bearings make a certain amount of noise, even when new. This is why everything is rubber mounted. We have seen several examples where rear axle noises turned out to be collapsed rear subframe mounts transmitting noise into the cabin. Change the mounts and noise goes away. Generally this is a noise that is 100% road speed dependant. IE: no change if on or off the accelerator and doesn't come and go at certain speeds. Best example was a very nice W114 280E whee someone had changed the diff twice with no improvement. We changed the subframe bushes and fixed the diff noise. Have never seen a W202 do this, but it would be worth checking.newMercowner69 wrote: ↑Thu 19 May, 2022 10:57 am For ex amount of years,
I've been hearing a noise which at 1st assumed&thought it was driveline related,
So replaced the center bearing with housing (genuine stealership MB one),
Noise is still there,
Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
John Green, Member Institute Automotive Mechanical Engineers
http://mbspares.com.au - Supporting Australia's Mercedes-Benz Enthusiasts.
John Green, Member Institute Automotive Mechanical Engineers
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Re: Differential noise " whine".
Could the whine be fuel pump related?,
In ALL of my previous services i've always had the fuel filter replaced,
& I noticed that when doing between 40-50kmh up a hill,
"Wagner" is gutless has nearly virtually no power,
I have to lift of the accelerator pedal& depress again,
This problem (low speed lack of power/torque),
Appears when either in D or in 2nd,
&When i shift the lever to the R/H.....
In ALL of my previous services i've always had the fuel filter replaced,
& I noticed that when doing between 40-50kmh up a hill,
"Wagner" is gutless has nearly virtually no power,
I have to lift of the accelerator pedal& depress again,
This problem (low speed lack of power/torque),
Appears when either in D or in 2nd,
&When i shift the lever to the R/H.....
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Re: Differential noise " whine".
Unlikely, is the noise road speed dependent? IE, gets worse the faster you go, usually to the point where other noises drown it out by the time you get to 100kmh?newMercowner69 wrote: ↑Wed 31 Aug, 2022 1:57 pm Could the whine be fuel pump related?,
"Wagner" is gutless has nearly virtually no power,
If it will rev out to max revs then the fuel pump/filter should be OK. I would be looking at the air mass sensor first if it drives ok, but is gutless. Best done with a scan tool that can read live data.
Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
John Green, Member Institute Automotive Mechanical Engineers
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John Green, Member Institute Automotive Mechanical Engineers
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