W124 220E - Engine Stalls Few Seconds After Startup

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W124 220E - Engine Stalls Few Seconds After Startup

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Hi All,


Get into the car today after not using it for about 2 weeks, the car starts up and then stalls after 10 seconds or so.


I start the car up immediately after it dies and it starts up with a little struggle then idles up and stalls after a few seconds again.


I've had this exact same issue for the last few years but I thought it was resolved after rewiring my ETA just about a year ago.


There is a little bit of a struggle when starting but it starts then idles up and cuts off...


I checked for faults codes and found no errors.


Previously this used to happen at any time, whether the engine is cold or hot.


I took a few videos of what's happening;


Startup after stalling;

https://vimeo.com/476914501


Holding the throttle open;

https://vimeo.com/476915043


Fuel pump buzzing after engine stalls;

https://vimeo.com/476915224


Things that have checked or done;

Replace fuel pressure regulator

Soft disable the alarm and immobiliser

Left the battery disconnected for a few hours


Could it be a faulty fuel pump or fuel relay?


How do I check fuel supply?


Any help will be greatly appreciated
1993 | W124 | 220E / E220 | WDB1240226B970861 | 230 000km
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Re: W124 220E - Engine Stalls Few Seconds After Startup

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What does "Soft disable the alarm and immobiliser" mean? Remove it completely, it is a liability to the car. I have removed so many alarms over the years which have fixed issues like this.

Also I would presume the engine wiring harness has been replaced?

Checking fuel pressure is best done with a gauge, but there are a few methods that you could use. Very basic is to run it till it stops and then crack a fuel line on the rail, big squirt, I would say it's fine. You could also bridge out the fuel pump relay to remove that from the equation. It is a green relay in behind the battery.
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Re: W124 220E - Engine Stalls Few Seconds After Startup

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John Green wrote: Mon 09 Nov, 2020 9:20 am What does "Soft disable the alarm and immobiliser" mean? Remove it completely, it is a liability to the car.


I disabled the alarm using the onboard alarm override. I agree that I need to disconnect it altogether to rule this out as the problem.
John Green wrote: Mon 09 Nov, 2020 9:20 am Also I would presume the engine wiring harness has been replaced?


Yeah, the engine wiring has been replaced.

John Green wrote: Mon 09 Nov, 2020 9:20 am Checking fuel pressure is best done with a gauge, but there are a few methods that you could use. Very basic is to run it till it stops and then crack a fuel line on the rail, big squirt, I would say it's fine. You could also bridge out the fuel pump relay to remove that from the equation. It is a green relay in behind the battery.
Which pin outs on the relay socket would I need to bridge?

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So after a week of standing, I reconnect the battery (I always keep the battery disconnected, when not using it on a daily basis), and it cranks up and runs perfectly. Took it for about a 15km drive to do some errands and it ran without issue.

One thing I did notice is that the fuel pump does not seem to be as loud as in the video...
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Re: W124 220E - Engine Stalls Few Seconds After Startup

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Look for the relay, if the same as the cars we got, it will be green and behind the battery somewhere. It may have a fuse in it. There should be a diagram on the side that will help. With most relays it is a bridge between terminals 30 and 87.
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Re: W124 220E - Engine Stalls Few Seconds After Startup

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Great thank you! will give it a shot
1993 | W124 | 220E / E220 | WDB1240226B970861 | 230 000km
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