my rusty finnie

1961-1968: a.k.a "Finnie" or "Heckflosse" models
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ekdave
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my rusty finnie

Post by ekdave » Fri 26 May, 2017 8:30 pm

hi guys ,

attached are a few pic of my impending project old bondo buggy
as she arrive

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after a bit of scratching thro bog

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roof even filled

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that's just a little of what I have revealed under the bog to date

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cuisses
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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by cuisses » Fri 26 May, 2017 10:08 pm

Love the two-tone colour scheme - I have always thought light blue and rust really complement each other well. :laughing6:

Well worth saving, but a fair bit of work.

I take it you are rather handy with a welder. What are the mechanicals/interior like?
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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by ekdave » Fri 26 May, 2017 11:04 pm

HI David,

the interior is in v good condition drives door trim it a little sad but the rest in great ..
mechanical well she runs and drive nicely but need work .. I have dug into it too much yet brakes not working although wheel components are excellent , master cylinder is shoot .

having said that I'm sure the motor will neeed a going over maybe valve seals and she was a little fumie after oil change ,,
but its a long term project and is no 2 before the 46 chev truck that's already well underway ..

cheers David

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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by dynamike » Sat 27 May, 2017 5:39 pm

You've got a long road ahead. If that's the stuff that's visible there's guaranteed plenty more. Check out the story of "Konrad" on here to appreciate what you can likely expect.


Have you checked the obvious spots like sills, floor pans and boot? Carefully check the engine bay as well under brake booster and around hinges. I've recently decided to abandoned my W111 which was in similar condition or actually a bit better off. Figured it just wasn't worth it as there's still too many of them around in much better nick that can be had for under 10k.

But if you got patience and keen to do it yourself keep going. It'll be one rewarding experience when you get it finally done.

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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by ekdave » Sun 28 May, 2017 8:32 am

ah Mike that's just a couple of snaps of whats there .. the cab floors are sound ,,, boot floor shot , rear 1/4 panels loaded with filler , front bumper mounts shot .. firewall btw gaurds shot ..
YES its a borderline parts car but I'm up 4 a challenge was considering having it sand blasted but I didn't want to do a total strip down and all id get back would be a buck of metal filled sand ...
the finny low on list until I finish 46 chev truck can the usual maintance on my ek holden

I'm hoping its not as bad a Konrad but only time will reveal the nature of the rust daemons and the bondo artistry
but I'm always on the look out for parts

Thanks David

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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by Mercmad » Sun 28 May, 2017 11:08 am

looks like konrads rusty little brother. :laughing6: Oz assembled? Just a point, if you make your own sills they change shape along their length and are not the easiest part to make up. Budget for jack points too. Ditch those front guards and shop around for a pair of better ones. easier to replace them with not so rusty parts than struggle with those.

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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by ekdave » Mon 29 May, 2017 12:53 pm

it will be a challenge mercmad . that for sure ..

I repaired the radiator today so I could run it a little more that a few minutes . I'm in need of a radiator cap seem merc aust have at $192 bucks .. lol
can import em for around $50 but thought id see if there was a local source 1 st


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Thanks David

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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by ekdave » Fri 02 Jun, 2017 6:12 am

been looking at front guards trying to workout why the heavy filler around the front bezel and its occoured to me that the guards may not be from this model CAN by chance guards from a later model maybe 1967 fit onto A 1961 shell ?


Thanks David

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Post by Mercmad » Fri 02 Jun, 2017 8:15 am

nope, only finny guards fit finny's. And all finny guards are the same except the 300's which have holes for trim.

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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by Bartman4800 » Fri 02 Jun, 2017 12:56 pm

ekdave wrote:been looking at front guards trying to workout why the heavy filler around the front bezel and its occoured to me that the guards may not be from this model CAN by chance guards from a later model maybe 1967 fit onto A 1961 shell ?


Thanks David
The build year on a mercedes will only tell you half the story.

Always use the chassis code, like W111/W108 etc.

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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by ekdave » Wed 12 Jul, 2017 6:35 am

scored a lot of replacement panel for the finnie this week ..
but i have already started repairing some of the panels and will mostlikely resort all of the discarded parts , just because i love doing metal work \\\

hears the drivers door skin i did this week

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2ufgxwoouwvb ... d.jpg?dl=0

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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by merc-304 » Wed 12 Jul, 2017 7:41 am

Nice job Dave.
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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by Ludwig » Wed 12 Jul, 2017 12:00 pm

I think that we are being a little critical of Konrad. While there was considerable rust in and around engine bay only rear L qtr panel was replaced due to rust as were sills and jacking points. Front R wing replaced due to damage. Floors, boot and firewall all OK. Rear doors were replaced with NOS. Other costs were new rubbers all around and repairs to injector system and brakes master cylinder and booster. Engine (and AC) all apparently operating well. (Road test expected in next couple weeks).
I can see at least $30,000 in the "rusty finnie". The only reason that I ever considered restoration of Konrad was it's comparative rarity. That being said, had I realised the amount of work required. I'm not sure whether I would have embraced the project. Equally, I am pretty sure that I would not entertain the idea of spending a huge amount of $$ on this (rather more common) vehicle. Hey......but what would I know? If your heart says "go" and you're prepared to lose $$ then just do it.
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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by T-Modell » Wed 12 Jul, 2017 5:10 pm

Ludwig wrote:...Hey......but what would I know? If your heart says "go" and you're prepared to lose $$ then just do it.
I know the feeling :laughing6: ... I wish Dave good luck with this - huge - project!
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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by ekdave » Wed 12 Jul, 2017 5:18 pm

thanks guys its not a priority job to just tinker on it when i feel like it have made the door frame btm just need to it in and then ill fit the skin ..

next i think ill do a sill but fidlly as it needs jack point on front re does as well .

still hope the parts fairys will drop a nice driver side guard off .. :-)m

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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by Bartman4800 » Wed 12 Jul, 2017 5:55 pm

Looking at your pictures re. the jacking point.

Don't make the mistake to weld the jacking point to the outer sill.
They are supposed to have 3mm clearance all around.
If the gap is closed, people in the know can tell it has been botched.

Like so: https://www.flickr.com/photos/129628996 ... ed-public/
1963 220 Sb Sedan "Kermit" (Australian Assembly)
1960 220 Sb Sedan "Zum Schlachten" (Early German Assembly, with a torsion bar spring for the bonnet) - Stored in Country WA
1981 Subaru Brumby 1.8 with Weber and 5-speed box "little utie" - Sold to another enthusiast!
2006 Ford Focus "missus car"
2002 VW Passat V6 30V Station Wagon (my new commuter bus)

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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by ekdave » Wed 12 Jul, 2017 7:09 pm

thanks for the heads up Bart looks like it been done before the sills weld to jack point on this old girl

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Re: my rusty finnie

Post by ekdave » Thu 27 Jul, 2017 8:35 pm

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did a bit of work on the drives door ... new skin and btm panel

the door close latch seem to be a weak spot of there too
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