What did you do to your Finnie today?

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Re: What did you do to your Finnie today?

Post by pastelgrey300D » Sun 06 Dec, 2015 4:05 pm

Removed and thoroughly cleaned and polished all of the wheel trim rings and hubcaps yesterday and thoroughly detailed both Finnies inside and out. But the real reason behind doing so was for a special occasion:
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A few months ago a friend of the bride called me to say that the bride was pulling her hair out trying to find wedding transport - because of the location and short distance none of the professional wedding chauffeur companies were interested (Piccadilly to Norton Summit one way - only around 11km). Enter the 230S aka 'Das Weddinator' and his trusty sidekick 'Finboy' the red 190. With two cars, I enlisted the help of Justin aka Eddie to drive the blue car. Was a bit of a warm one but got the bridal party to the venue without incident. Everytime I clean and fully detail these two I'm still surprised at how good they can look!

Not doing anything on the Finnie today though as it's 42 degrees here and the shed is a bit warm. Staying inside under the a/c and praying to Electros (the greek god of mains power distribution) that the power stays on.
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Re: What did you do to your Finnie today?

Post by Bartman4800 » Sun 06 Dec, 2015 4:37 pm

You lucky bastard :laughing6:

Hint: I put an evap system on my shed (with a diffusor at the bottom like the ones in the older shops).

I bought it off gumtree for 500 dollars. All you need is water and Elektros.

Also blows the fumes out the door when welding, spray painting, or running the enviro-friendly Fintail engine :bs:


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Post by drew56cus » Mon 14 Dec, 2015 8:27 am

Picked up my revitalised driveshaft and installed it in Frankenbenz. I have had a vibration in the driveline since the start and had changed rubbers and mounts for the engine and trans. Finally got around to pulling this out - the central uni was pretty stuffed in one direction so MB Spares sent up a new centre bearing and rubber and Hardy Spicer cut out the old units and staked in some new ones.
I can now drive at 100 without the car shaking. There is still a subtle vibration there that will require me to check the engine/trans/diff alignment to see if any tweaking can resolve that.
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Re: What did you do to your Finnie today?

Post by konrad » Mon 14 Dec, 2015 10:59 am

drew56cus wrote:I can now drive at 100 without the car shaking.
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is that 100 kph or 100 mph ?

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Post by pastelgrey300D » Mon 18 Jan, 2016 11:08 am

Small achievement, I cleaned off the wiper and light switches - I thought the plastic was warped or damaged but it was just years of hand gunge build up. Switches look like new now! Then took the Finnie down to Milang for the Milang yesteryear power rally. Nice drive and some nice cars down there, but it was a bit hot. Snapped a few pics with the Finnie on the shores of Lake Alexandrina. Now you know why they call it horizon blue!
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Post by Bartman4800 » Mon 18 Jan, 2016 1:17 pm

Good one David, you keep the finnie spirit alive.

Mine is stuck in the shed waiting on more time to proceed. In the meantime I have been fixing my Passat V6.

Rebuilt the (multi link) front suspension with new arms, and replaced all 4 shock absorbers and gave it a service. Now I still have to fix the A/C
The magnet on the AC clutch packed in, or the wire going to it broke.

There is no access, because like in an Audi, they put the engine in front of the headlights.....
Every time I need to do a bit more serious service, the nose has to come off.

Should have bought a Merc instead.... :boohoo:


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Re: What did you do to your Finnie today?

Post by Bartman4800 » Mon 21 Mar, 2016 11:21 am

This weekend I repaired my fuel bypass valve

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In the right bottom corner of this picture you can see this brass coloured thingy with the large hex head. I think only the solex carbies had them.
It's purpose is to let some fuel flow back to tank (mostly at idle) to prevent vapour lock.

When Drew came to my place last weekend, I started up the engine and I noticed some fuel dripping out.
This weekend I took the valve apart. Turned out the diaphragm had gone hard and brittle.

AFAIK there are no rebuild kits for it. It has a needle mounted to the diaphragm, which closes off the bypass flow when pushed in.
I filed off the mushroomed head above the diaphragm, and made a new diaphragm from a carby kit I had lying around. I installed it on the needle and mushroomed the brass head of the needle again.
When i installed it on the engine, it did not want to seal. Problem was, that the diaphragm was being curled up when you screw the valve halves together.
I then superglued the 2 fiber washers to the diaphragm, and that did the trick!

A little, but essential part of a carburettored finnie!

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2006 Ford Focus "daily driver"
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Re: What did you do to your Finnie today?

Post by Mercmad » Mon 28 Mar, 2016 8:26 am

pastelgrey300D wrote: Not doing anything on the Finnie today though as it's 42 degrees here and the shed is a bit warm. Staying inside under the a/c and praying to Electros (the greek god of mains power distribution) that the power stays on.
I was talking with Fred, a phillipino guy who does skylight installations , about how hot it is my shed and how useless the whirly gigs on the roof are. He explained (and I sort of realised) is that thery do nothing but turn around and dont extract any hot stale air from the roof inside. So he suggested i buy a solar powered skylight from Masters for $295.https://www.masters.com.au/product/9000 ... ventilator one at the opposite end to the main door and it will work by itself during the day to extract the air and generate a cooling breeze through the shop .An idea worth considering and he said he could install it in place of one of the whilry gigs in 10 minutes. . Cheaper than running a shop fan and a lot quieter.

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Post by Mercmad » Mon 28 Mar, 2016 8:28 am

Bartman4800 wrote:This weekend I repaired my fuel bypass valve

Image

In the right bottom corner of this picture you can see this brass coloured thingy with the large hex head. I think only the solex carbies had them.
It's purpose is to let some fuel flow back to tank (mostly at idle) to prevent vapour lock.

When Drew came to my place last weekend, I started up the engine and I noticed some fuel dripping out.
This weekend I took the valve apart. Turned out the diaphragm had gone hard and brittle.

AFAIK there are no rebuild kits for it. It has a needle mounted to the diaphragm, which closes off the bypass flow when pushed in.
I filed off the mushroomed head above the diaphragm, and made a new diaphragm from a carby kit I had lying around. I installed it on the needle and mushroomed the brass head of the needle again.
When i installed it on the engine, it did not want to seal. Problem was, that the diaphragm was being curled up when you screw the valve halves together.
I then superglued the 2 fiber washers to the diaphragm, and that did the trick!

A little, but essential part of a carburettored finnie!

Bart
We need those in oz to prevent vapour lock too, i have found plenty with 5 cent peices in them to stop the leaks and a W108 i had recently had a the two lines back to front, so fuel was pimping out the bowl vents.... really clever! NOT>

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Post by Bartman4800 » Tue 29 Mar, 2016 6:12 pm

Must have been quite the carbies, if the fuel was PIMPING out :laughing6: :laughing6:
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Post by starman61 » Mon 18 Jul, 2016 5:21 am

Gave the car a buff.
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Post by pastelgrey300D » Mon 18 Jul, 2016 11:13 am

^^^ Looking good! :love10: :love4:
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Post by Bartman4800 » Tue 19 Jul, 2016 12:05 pm

Looks awesome!
Did you recondition your taillights? They look (almost) new.

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Post by T-Modell » Tue 19 Jul, 2016 5:11 pm

Fantastic colour! Great! ... just the blue one in the background :naughty:

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Post by starman61 » Tue 19 Jul, 2016 9:27 pm

Hi Bart,

Taillights have typical crazing, just doesn't show up in the photos. Hard to find good ones now days but am on the lookout as chrome on R/H side is also pitted.

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Post by Bartman4800 » Wed 20 Jul, 2016 1:51 pm

I am looking to have mine rechromed, when I finish my other stuff first. I have a few spares lying around.
I already sourced new lenses.

However Perth is probably not the best place to have affordable chrome done on these zamak cast parts...

Anyone some tips? Maybe New Zealand...


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Post by cuisses » Wed 10 Jan, 2018 5:53 pm

cuisses wrote:
Mon 23 Mar, 2015 4:26 pm
cuisses wrote:
Mercmad wrote:If you want really long lasting lasting exhuast hangers,go to repco and ask for holden commode ones. The only good part on a holden are the excellent rubber hangers. VK to VS i think. They are super tough to fit but the exhaust will stay put for years.

The two hangers on my W108 broke off at the bottom [Yes I know this the Finnie forum, but I'm just continuing the theme] - so I went and bought Commodore ones ($6 for two at Autopro). Ron says to use the Holden part, and given his usual opinion of Holdens, there must be a good reason. I have however to disagree with Mercmad on one point - they are in fact pretty easy to put on - Ron must be using his bare hands. :laughing6:

Procedure:

(1) Put hangers in ice water or in the freezer. Rubber is softer when it is cold (all physicists should know this), so it will be easier to stretch when cold. If you don't believe me, hang a weight from an elastic band when hot and when cold.

(2) Use floor jack to gently lift the exhaust.

(3) Put hanger on lower hook first, then use a screwdriver to lever it on the upper hook.

Took all of 5 minutes, once the hangers were cold.

My W108 has been making this thumping sound at the rear when getting over bumps and maybe sometimes accelerating. I had a look at the back and noticed that the exhaust hangers have failed again. One was cracked straight through and the other was cracked enough to fail very soon. So thanks to the forum I can now quantify what Mercmad means by "will stay put for years" - 1.27 years. I went and got some more Commodore ones from Repco (this time $15 a pair). I will check them in a year's time to see how they are going.

In the meantime, the thump hasn't gone away. I'm thinking diff mount (?) but I don't know how to check it.

Leaving the garage today (in the W108), I heard a scraping noise. Stopped, and saw the exhaust on the ground. All 4 hangers had given up. Off to Repco for some more (Commodore ones, as per Mercmad's advice). March 2015 to Jan 2018, less than 3 years - doesn't seem like a long-wearing part, or perhaps the V8 just shakes them too much.

(Oddly enough, last time it was $15 for two - this time $21 for 4. I like the way prices are going, although it would be nice if the parts lasted a little longer.)
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Post by Bartman4800 » Mon 15 Jan, 2018 11:00 am

Congrats Phil, you bloody ripper!
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Post by Mercmad » Tue 23 Jan, 2018 1:32 pm

Still in my shed though . Bled all the brakes, repacked the front wheel bearings and am about to remove the steering box and repair the coupler ,then it's electrical s and roadworthy test and then it's off to it's new home. ! :clock: it took a while....

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Post by Mercmad » Tue 23 Jan, 2018 1:34 pm

cuisses wrote:
Wed 10 Jan, 2018 5:53 pm
cuisses wrote:
Mon 23 Mar, 2015 4:26 pm
cuisses wrote:

The two hangers on my W108 broke off at the bottom [Yes I know this the Finnie forum, but I'm just continuing the theme] - so I went and bought Commodore ones ($6 for two at Autopro). Ron says to use the Holden part, and given his usual opinion of Holdens, there must be a good reason. I have however to disagree with Mercmad on one point - they are in fact pretty easy to put on - Ron must be using his bare hands. :laughing6:

Procedure:

(1) Put hangers in ice water or in the freezer. Rubber is softer when it is cold (all physicists should know this), so it will be easier to stretch when cold. If you don't believe me, hang a weight from an elastic band when hot and when cold.

(2) Use floor jack to gently lift the exhaust.

(3) Put hanger on lower hook first, then use a screwdriver to lever it on the upper hook.

Took all of 5 minutes, once the hangers were cold.

My W108 has been making this thumping sound at the rear when getting over bumps and maybe sometimes accelerating. I had a look at the back and noticed that the exhaust hangers have failed again. One was cracked straight through and the other was cracked enough to fail very soon. So thanks to the forum I can now quantify what Mercmad means by "will stay put for years" - 1.27 years. I went and got some more Commodore ones from Repco (this time $15 a pair). I will check them in a year's time to see how they are going.

In the meantime, the thump hasn't gone away. I'm thinking diff mount (?) but I don't know how to check it.

Leaving the garage today (in the W108), I heard a scraping noise. Stopped, and saw the exhaust on the ground. All 4 hangers had given up. Off to Repco for some more (Commodore ones, as per Mercmad's advice). March 2015 to Jan 2018, less than 3 years - doesn't seem like a long-wearing part, or perhaps the V8 just shakes them too much.

(Oddly enough, last time it was $15 for two - this time $21 for 4. I like the way prices are going, although it would be nice if the parts lasted a little longer.)
I meant to answer this the other day, the rubber ring in the middle of the car is still there? It's a big thing that holds the exhaust on two hooks.

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Post by cuisses » Tue 23 Jan, 2018 7:57 pm

the rubber ring in the middle of the car is still there? It's a big thing that holds the exhaust on two hooks.
Ron, I had a look. I don't think there is anything else supporting the exhaust except the 4 rubber figure 8's (2 on either end of the muffler).
Perhaps that is why my rubber rings fail at such an alarming rate?

Can you point me to a diagram so I can check for sure?
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Post by andyqld » Tue 23 Jan, 2018 9:46 pm

Mercmad wrote:
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 1:32 pm
Still in my shed though . Bled all the brakes, repacked the front wheel bearings and am about to remove the steering box and repair the coupler ,then it's electrical s and roadworthy test and then it's off to it's new home. ! :clock: it took a while....
Tyres and battery from me and then get the new home ready :dance: :dance: :dance:
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Post by Beamer » Tue 23 Jan, 2018 9:54 pm

Not Finny related, but all of my exhaust rubbers failed on a drive to the Yorke Peninsula over this past weekend. As the car was only serviced in December and one was replaced at that time, I can only put it down the heat - they failed after about 150km in 45-46° heat (according to the temperature display in the dash). I found the nearest local mechanic who replaced them with four Holden units for me - back on the road in half an hour.
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Post by Mercmad » Wed 24 Jan, 2018 7:53 am

cuisses wrote:
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 7:57 pm
the rubber ring in the middle of the car is still there? It's a big thing that holds the exhaust on two hooks.
Ron, I had a look. I don't think there is anything else supporting the exhaust except the 4 rubber figure 8's (2 on either end of the muffler).
Perhaps that is why my rubber rings fail at such an alarming rate?

Can you point me to a diagram so I can check for sure?
A1094920082
A1094920543
A0004921683
A1094900343
A0004920053
These are the part numbers for the ring ,bracket etc. MB's sghould either have used ones or new ones for you. and yes that will cause the rear rings to fail .Image

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Re: What did you do to your Finnie today?

Post by dynamike » Sun 04 Feb, 2018 10:52 am

After some excellent phone and text message consultation by mercmad I tackled the replacement of the fluid coupling on my 220Sb that had split. Pulling transmission in the backyard shed without hoist or transmission cradle is one dirty job. Few lessons learned along the way.

Other recent items:
Fix heater taps (thanks Drew for further clarification)
Replace weather strip in boot
Install dashboard speaker and wire-in mini-bluetooth amplifier hidden behind original radio.
Replace shifter bushings
Replace spray bottle, hoses and fix pump
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