Monotone or two-tone?

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Monotone or two-tone?

Post by Static210 » Fri 24 Mar, 2017 12:51 pm

Hello all,
Long time owner of a w210 and now newly aquired w124 coupe. Im looking at getting a complete respray because of clearcoat fail, however my issue is the car is 744 brilliant silver monotone at the moment, i am unsure as to whether this was done by previous owner or was done at factory. I dont mind either look although i would like to get everyone's opinions about how i should go about this. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Monotone or two-tone?

Post by 230ew123 » Fri 24 Mar, 2017 11:26 pm

either, I think, it should have your original car paint code stamped by your vin or enter your vin in mbfans and it should say what colour it is/was. if you after the original..

I doubt it was two tone originally somehow, it does not make manufacturing sense.

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Re: Monotone or two-tone?

Post by Static210 » Sat 25 Mar, 2017 10:38 am

Thanks for the reply. It is my understanding that the secondary colour is not displayed and only the top colour, which in this case is 744. Ill be a little more clear about the car its self, its a 1994 e220 coupe. Im looking at retaining its original look. Did the update w124 coupe have the monotone and two tone option or was it all mono or all two tone? I know the early 300ce's were mono tone eith black bumper inserts, are there any late model w124 coupes that are factory colour coded?

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Re: Monotone or two-tone?

Post by 230ew123 » Sat 25 Mar, 2017 3:48 pm

did you try your vin in mbfans?, it shall list every aspect of your particular car..simply google mbfans and type in your vin..it would state your paint

I would imagine if there is two tones of factory paint, it should have two paint codes..still could not imagine many manufacturers factory painting two tones, as they would have to change equipment and paint for each unit, happy to be corrected

or if someone here has the same year and model as yourself who knows their car's history and happens to have two tones, that would help towards clarifying if yours originally had two tones..

do you know the history of you car? previous owner/s. good to ask them and painted by whom?
good chances if your car is over 20 years, looks good and had p.o's, it has been re-painted..even stone chips and parking bumps, shopping trolley bashes are often tarted up..no ones fault in particular just a paint's life of use. This is standard stuff for an auto painter..

a fair bit of the auto industry is dedicated to making older cars look good..I was recently introduced watching a pp inspection on an audi, that some dodgy car dealers turn the clock back, ..

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Re: Monotone or two-tone?

Post by CraigB » Sat 25 Mar, 2017 5:25 pm

I'm assuming by two-tone you don't mean a traditional roof colour etc and you are talking about how say in earlier W126, the plastic trim panels and bumpers were done in silver, whether it was red, blue whatever, but giving the effect of two different silvers. Then later cars had the plastics in body colour, and i assume you mean the W124 all of it is same colour. You need a W124 expert to tell you when they changed to body colour plastics - 1990ish i think for the W126. I don't think you will pick it up from paint codes. 1994 is update and i don't think they had the plastic panels - can you find a photo say on google images to show what you are referring to as two tone. I can only see pre facelift with the different colour plastic panels.

...... that is if I have guessed what you are talking about correctly.
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Re: Monotone or two-tone?

Post by 230ew123 » Sat 25 Mar, 2017 8:08 pm

ahh yes I see, plastic bumpers..they would have been made in a separate workshop when the car was painted, good chances a different tone as they probably had different batches and used different primers and paints for a different material..

haven't had to deal with plastic panels on purpose, sorry. perhaps ,still, mbfans would list it but that failing,
I would guess if a paint code could not be found for the plastic, a good auto paint specialist would measure it with their spectro meter thingy under different lighting conditions, they get an exact match, the really super specialised painters take a week to match the colour..that's what bodyshop in bayswater does.

Thanks for the education

here is a link with some clues, you are not alone it seems!
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e- ... -code.html

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Re: Monotone or two-tone?

Post by Ivanerrol » Sat 25 Mar, 2017 8:23 pm

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Re: Monotone or two-tone?

Post by John Green » Sun 26 Mar, 2017 9:16 am

230ew123 wrote:either, I think, it should have your original car paint code stamped by your vin or enter your vin in mbfans and it should say what colour it is/was. if you after the original..

I doubt it was two tone originally somehow, it does not make manufacturing sense.
The colour on the datatag is the code for the body colour only, from that colour code you can deduct the colour for the plastics.

However to confuse you all here is my 1996 cabriolet, factory monotone.
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Re: Monotone or two-tone?

Post by Static210 » Sun 26 Mar, 2017 5:31 pm

I did run my vin on mbfans and it comes up as paintcode 1: 744 and DARK BLUE SOFT TOP FABRIC 5010 although its a hardtop coupe. Yes im referring to the lower plastic bumpers being an offset colour to the body colour, its my understanding that the body was finished in clearcoat and the lower half in matte clearcoat. Mine is all silver with lower finished in gloss clearcoat, either resprayed at some stage. I could call a dealer and clarify. I also own a 1994 e280 sedan rosewood two tone. The cabrio suggests it could've been monotone although the gloss clearcoat has me confused now. I just want to paint it the way it was back in 1994 originally. Thanks for all the responses

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Re: Monotone or two-tone?

Post by SantoC » Sun 26 Mar, 2017 11:10 pm

My 1994 E300D in two-tone; Brilliant Silver (744) with Atlas Grey (7181) panelling.
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Re: Monotone or two-tone?

Post by SantoC » Tue 28 Mar, 2017 2:26 pm

Matching two-tone paintwork.

1st column - paint code for the bottom half of plastic panelling.
2nd column – paint name for plastic panelling.
3rd column - car's paint code. This code is found on the data plate.
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Re: Monotone or two-tone?

Post by 230ew123 » Tue 28 Mar, 2017 3:22 pm

Wow! Ozbenz has to be the greatest reference library there is !

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