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Blacken your Rubber/plastic bumpers

Post by Giles » Tue 10 Nov, 2009 6:23 pm

Sorry for this not being based on a Benz detail but I have posted this to recommend a product I have recently used to enhance my chalky bumpers of my Cross Country Volvo.
I have noticed many W124's with very grey looking bumpers and I thought that this product may help restore problem bumpers and black plastic trim. It's called Forever Black and it's a dye applied in the same fashion as a liquid shoe polish.

Below is a typical Cross Country grey bumper and then there are pictures of mine after treatment.
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Post by AMG » Tue 10 Nov, 2009 10:11 pm

looks like it works ok.... was it easy to apply? just wondering if the dye penetrates into or coats the plastic?
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Post by Giles » Tue 10 Nov, 2009 11:34 pm

It works very well but time consuming but not hard work. It penetrates the plastic rather than simply providing a coating.
The more chalky the surface the more time it takes as it soaks in.
There is no need to mask the paint work as the foam applicator creates a wokable edge and won't soak in and effect the duco.
The entire car did take me about 4 hours but it certainly was worth it.
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Post by The_Wolf » Wed 14 Jul, 2010 4:55 pm

Hi Giles,

Is it best to lightly sand off (or get rid of some other way) any scuffing on the bumpers before applying. I'm assuming this is just normal procedure actually. Or, will it cover these kind of marks if applied just straight on as it were?

Would like to reapply this sort of thing to mine as the bumpers are quite grey in some areas, and I'm thinking this would obviously help with bringing it back to that "near new" look...

Cheers for your comment in advance (or anyone else for that matter...)
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Post by Ivanerrol » Wed 14 Jul, 2010 9:59 pm

I use petroleum jelly, cheap and very effective.
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Re: Blacken your Rubber/plastic bumpers

Post by Giles » Fri 16 Jul, 2010 11:28 pm

The_Wolf wrote:Hi Giles,

Is it best to lightly sand off (or get rid of some other way) any scuffing on the bumpers before applying. I'm assuming this is just normal procedure actually. Or, will it cover these kind of marks if applied just straight on as it were?

Would like to reapply this sort of thing to mine as the bumpers are quite grey in some areas, and I'm thinking this would obviously help with bringing it back to that "near new" look...

Cheers for your comment in advance (or anyone else for that matter...)
If you have any areas that are scuffed it's worth taking to them with a light sand sand prior just to eliminate any obvious blemishes. It may take two or three coats depending on the condition of the plastic.

Ivanerrol uses petroleum jelly with good results but it has no blackening properties whereas For Ever Black does as it dyes the plastic. As you can see from the earlier photos, some black plastics do turn grey over time.

The kit comes with a prep formula that cleans the surface prior to application.

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Post by Bombardier » Sun 18 Jul, 2010 10:09 am

You own a VOLVO!!!!!!!!

heh heh

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Post by Michel » Sun 18 Jul, 2010 1:24 pm

This is great. I will use some of that on my Silver Spur and see how it goes.

However, I would like to know how does one revive the rubber on the body mould of a 116 and the one on the bumber bars
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Post by Ivanerrol » Sun 18 Jul, 2010 1:33 pm

I have used black polish in the past to spruce up the rubber components but you will be surprised at the results that cheap old Petroleum jelly will give.

I use it on the bumper inserts, door handles, rubber underneath the trim and the windshield wiper arms.

You also use P.J. on the interior.
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Post by Michel » Sun 18 Jul, 2010 1:38 pm

Ivanerrol wrote:I have used black polish in the past to spruce up the rubber components but you will be surprised at the results that cheap old Petroleum jelly will give.

I use it on the bumper inserts, door handles, rubber underneath the trim and the windshield wiper arms.

You also use P.J. on the interior.
Thanks.
I'll give it a go
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Post by Giles » Sun 18 Jul, 2010 8:50 pm

Bombardier wrote:You own a VOLVO!!!!!!!!

heh heh
Well I used to own a Volvo, I was in the the need for a an AWD family wagon and couldn't bring myself to buy an ML. My wife was nursing her terminally ill father and brother and she had to drive to Perth every week, a 400km round trip. I didn't want to clock up the Kms on her E430. Better on the Volvo rather than the Benz.

Although a short lived experience it was quite a comfortable car, well appointed but quite fragile. I tossed out the hat and "I'm a Bloody Volvo Driver" sticker for an old Rangie, for off road duties and boat towing, and bought a SLC for sprited driving.

What I would like would be a a G Series witha 560 implant, now where would you find one of those? Perhaps the "Centre of The Universe".

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Post by Giles » Sun 18 Jul, 2010 8:55 pm

Michel wrote:This is great. I will use some of that on my Silver Spur and see how it goes.

However, I would like to know how does one revive the rubber on the body mould of a 116 and the one on the bumber bars
Hi Michel,

I've used a tyre shine product to enhance the rubber mould on my W114.

I'll post some pics and the name of the product tomorrow.

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Post by Giles » Tue 20 Jul, 2010 6:49 pm

Pardon the delay but the weather was crap yesterday to take pics.

The product I use on tyres, mudflaps, rubber doors seals/mats, rubber bumpers and old dash's is Meguires Instant Tire Shine.

Here's the old girl "Olive", now looking more glamorous than she was a month and a half ago. She's no spring chicken but still gets a few looks.
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Post by tony66au » Fri 01 Oct, 2010 9:10 pm

Bewdy Newk!

I was wondering what to use to tidy the plastics on my TE, I used to use linseed oil and Kero on tyres and bumpers but it tends to collect grunge while driving and before that I too used Vas much to the amusement of the girls in the Chemist.

Forever Black it is then!

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Post by Giles » Sun 03 Oct, 2010 11:13 pm

Don't stop from keeping the girls at the chemist guessing.

Maybe ask them if they have a "Black" version that lasts longer! :rr:

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Post by tony66au » Sun 03 Oct, 2010 11:55 pm

LMFAO!

I did ask them if they had latex wet sheets and shoulder length exam gloves a few months ago when the lambing started....

So its kinda ruined now
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Post by Giles » Mon 04 Oct, 2010 12:26 am

Good to hear your are not sheepsish at the Pharamacy. Hate to be the "Black Sheep". Does that count as a credit or debit with your wife?

Generally any "Blah, Blah, Blah's are debits with mine.

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Post by Bartman4800 » Fri 01 Feb, 2013 4:59 pm

I saw this on boobtube, and it actually works:

Greyed out plastics trim parts (not rubber) can be brought back to original lustry with the heat gun.
I used my butane torch instead to do interior bits that were very faded, after the heat gun packed in.

Give it a try!
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Post by tony66au » Sun 15 Dec, 2013 9:02 am

I used Forever Black on my V40T which was a bit chalky and had polish residue as well.

Hit it with warm water, Morning fresh and a plastic scourer (3M) to clean it up and wiped it all down with a tak cloth before hitting it with the Black and it came up so well it made the paintwork look old lol.

It is possibly the best bumper and plastic black out there and lasts a loooooong time
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Post by MR300TD » Wed 12 Feb, 2014 9:02 pm

Best stuff by a longshot is Cquartz Dlux by carpro, takes a bit of time to apply but once on lasts for a very long time (1 year). , i used it on my TD and now my trim stays black.

review here http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pro ... eview.html

you can buy it here: http://waxit.com.au/p/8696685/carpro-cq ... x-kit.html Not cheap bit a little goes a long way.

key is making sure to buff it well to even it out to a uniform finish.

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Post by oliveoyl » Thu 13 Feb, 2014 10:26 am

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Post by AMG » Thu 13 Feb, 2014 11:06 am

I think it depends whether or not you have plastic trims or rubber trim as to which product works better.

On the chrome bumper cars, I use WPJ for the rubber. also WPJ on vinyl dash, console etc. apply, soak, buff, wipe clean (need 3 separate rags for best result)

however on the plastic bumpers I actually remove the bumper inserts, and use the buffer with some fine cutting compound. once it's nice and clean, I apply a coat of polymer sealant, buff and then wax with yellow wax.

Works like a charm.

After a couple of years, just run some paint cleaner on it, then reapply the polymer sealant and yellow wax. comes back without any effort.


Only do this on the smooth plastics though. the textured bumper inserts need a little more TLC - prepsol, hand cut, buff, seal, wax. Much longer process.
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1987 560SL 4sp. auto Signalrot "Stella"
1987 190E 2.3-16 5sp. man. Blauschwarz "Hermann"
1992 300CE-24 6sp. man. Perlblau / Iceblau "Gretel"
1992 Range Rover Classic 4sp auto Ardennes Green "Oswald"
2012 E63 AMG Speedshift MCT Diamantweiß "Klaus"
Previous:
1986 560SEL Anthracitgrau "Schultz" - In Mercedes Heaven
1987 190E 2.6 4sp. auto Signalrot "Sabine" - which now resides/owns Andrew M's Garage
1972 350SLC Astralsilber "Lurch" - now in the loving care of Craig B
1989 2.5-16 Blauschwarz 4sp. auto (parted) formerly owned by Derek/Hasan.
2012 Renault Sport Megane RS265 Trophy 8:08 6 sp. man. Liquid Yellow "Jean Rédélé"

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