What’s she worth?

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What’s she worth?

Post by pommy » Mon 23 Apr, 2018 8:33 am

Hi folks,

After looking at a dog 560SEC I stumbled across a 280CE at a little stealership in a rural town. No books but deceased estate sale and condition matches kilometres - it’s all original -1979 76,000km. Dark red and cream interior, sunroof, Becker, electric windows. Hasn’t had any paint or restoration and is immaculate. Like a 2 year old car. Couple of paint chips and 2 pin prick dings and that’s your lot. On the original plates.

I’m trying to gauge a fair price. What price would people put on it?

Mike

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Re: What’s she worth?

Post by AMG » Mon 23 Apr, 2018 12:39 pm

Whatever someone is willing to pay.

I'd start looking for hidden rust.
Current:
1987 560SL 4sp. auto Signalrot "Stella"
1987 190E 2.3-16 5sp. man. Blauschwarz "Hermann"
1992 300CE-24 6sp. man. Perlblau / Iceblau "Gretel"
1992 Range Rover Classic 4sp auto Ardennes Green "Oswald"
2012 E63 AMG Speedshift MCT Diamantweiß "Klaus"
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1972 350SLC Astralsilber "Lurch" - now in the loving care of Craig B
1989 2.5-16 Blauschwarz 4sp. auto (parted) formerly owned by Derek/Hasan.
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Re: What’s she worth?

Post by GREENPEDRO » Mon 23 Apr, 2018 10:46 pm

Wow! 1979 and 76Ks, that gives it a value edge. My 1979 has 636,000 Ks.
As mentioned by AMG, the market dictates value however make a sensible offer and gauge the response.
My personal thought is somewhere between $3k to $5K but with such old, not run of the mill vehicles, who knows, I could be way out.
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Re: What’s she worth?

Post by Ivanerrol » Tue 24 Apr, 2018 12:22 am

Just because it has low K's doesn't mean mechanically it's any good.
But the basic body works are there.

Does it run and have you been for a test drive?

One general rule is : whatever you pay you will probably spend the same amount again getting it to a condition you are initially happy with.
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Re: What’s she worth?

Post by iluvbrownale » Tue 24 Apr, 2018 3:02 pm

I've had to abandon my account, I have resurrected my old one so 'pommy' is now back as 'iluvbrownale'.

To accurately describe the car, it's in as new condition, inside, out and beyond, like a full resto. Mechanically it's spot on. It's been dry stored for a decade and you could eat your dinner off any part of it. The guy is open to offers, and I think it's fair to say this could well be the best in the country. I was thinking $20-25k would be more the mark based on UK and European prices for similar mileage and condition. My only gripe is the lack of books - it was serviced in Hobart and the garage has since gone out of business, and they held the books for it. Bugger.

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Re: What’s she worth?

Post by T-Modell » Tue 24 Apr, 2018 3:22 pm

Hi Mike,
if you have a car like this, there's no "market", because they're so rare. The price - in the end - is what someone at this point in time is willing to pay. So if it's really so good and you're willing to pay 20-25k, then go for it. But it could well be the case, that the guy finds noone in Australia who wants that car for that price. Alternatively there's someone with money, whose father had just a car like this ... well he'd pay even more.

If the condition is like you described, you'll definitely have a rare car.
Thomas
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Re: What’s she worth?

Post by Ivanerrol » Tue 24 Apr, 2018 10:33 pm

Gee,

If the car is as good as you describe I would be advocating throwing an ambit bid at it and negotiate with the seller.

Offer Say $7,500 and go up from there depending on what the seller does.
How are your negotiation skills?
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Re: What’s she worth?

Post by AMG » Wed 25 Apr, 2018 1:01 am

Agreed, that's what I meant by my first post... if it really is THAT good and you get a PPI done, then really, negotiation skills are what you need.

I'd take this combo in a 123 coupe over a 126 any day of the week - but that is just me. I have a thing for the more unusual colours and love the 123 coupe styling.

126's are nice, but are of a different 'bent'. They are also a much bigger, heavier car than the 123. Both have about equal body-roll in corners.

If the engine in the 123's stuffed, you can easily fit a 5.6L m117 in there with very little effort. then you have a 560CE :occasion5:
Current:
1987 560SL 4sp. auto Signalrot "Stella"
1987 190E 2.3-16 5sp. man. Blauschwarz "Hermann"
1992 300CE-24 6sp. man. Perlblau / Iceblau "Gretel"
1992 Range Rover Classic 4sp auto Ardennes Green "Oswald"
2012 E63 AMG Speedshift MCT Diamantweiß "Klaus"
Previous:
1986 560SEL Anthracitgrau "Schultz" - In Mercedes Heaven
1987 190E 2.6 4sp. auto Signalrot "Sabine" - which now resides/owns Andrew M's Garage
1972 350SLC Astralsilber "Lurch" - now in the loving care of Craig B
1989 2.5-16 Blauschwarz 4sp. auto (parted) formerly owned by Derek/Hasan.
2012 Renault Sport Megane RS265 Trophy 8:08 6 sp. man. Liquid Yellow "Jean Rédélé"

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Re: What’s she worth?

Post by iluvbrownale » Wed 25 Apr, 2018 12:18 pm

I think my answer is in there - whatever someone wants to pay. I used to have one 15 years ago and loved it, so seeing one in this condition was like falling in love again. That's when you pay over the odds though.
My heart wants it, my head says every classic I've had I've made good money on and I just don't think there's any value ad to this, so I'm beholden to the market and that's just an unknown.
As for negotiationing, the seller doesn't have to sell. I've got him from $30k to $25k and whilst there might be another grand in it, that's where we finish. As an experienced car salesman i negotiate every day so it is what it is.
I'd put a WTB up for a 126 as I think I'd find it more usable as it could share the daily duties with the 124. A low km 123 needs to stay that way.
It's fair to say I don't really know what I want, only last week I was about to buy a 911.....

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Re: What’s she worth?

Post by T-Modell » Wed 25 Apr, 2018 4:52 pm

The question is: Are you happier with a fantastic car that you used to have or with a few thousand quid saved?

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1973 W115 220D 5.0 Pick-Up Argentina, work in progress 2017/18/19
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Re: What’s she worth?

Post by iluvbrownale » Mon 14 May, 2018 11:42 am

T-Modell wrote:
Wed 25 Apr, 2018 4:52 pm
The question is: Are you happier with a fantastic car that you used to have or with a few thousand quid saved?

Regards
Thomas
You mentioned money, I'm from Yorkshire, that's a very very difficult question

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Re: What’s she worth?

Post by AMG » Thu 17 May, 2018 9:04 am

iluvbrownale wrote:
Mon 14 May, 2018 11:42 am
T-Modell wrote:
Wed 25 Apr, 2018 4:52 pm
The question is: Are you happier with a fantastic car that you used to have or with a few thousand quid saved?

Regards
Thomas
You mentioned money, I'm from Yorkshire, that's a very very difficult question
aye indeed tis.
you might find an extra pound or two, in the jar 'top cupboard.

In the grand scheme of things money saved does not equate to happiness.

Scrooge might have had money coming out of his ears, but he was still a grumpy old bastard with no mates.
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Current:
1987 560SL 4sp. auto Signalrot "Stella"
1987 190E 2.3-16 5sp. man. Blauschwarz "Hermann"
1992 300CE-24 6sp. man. Perlblau / Iceblau "Gretel"
1992 Range Rover Classic 4sp auto Ardennes Green "Oswald"
2012 E63 AMG Speedshift MCT Diamantweiß "Klaus"
Previous:
1986 560SEL Anthracitgrau "Schultz" - In Mercedes Heaven
1987 190E 2.6 4sp. auto Signalrot "Sabine" - which now resides/owns Andrew M's Garage
1972 350SLC Astralsilber "Lurch" - now in the loving care of Craig B
1989 2.5-16 Blauschwarz 4sp. auto (parted) formerly owned by Derek/Hasan.
2012 Renault Sport Megane RS265 Trophy 8:08 6 sp. man. Liquid Yellow "Jean Rédélé"

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