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is Global Warming all lies

Post by Ludwig » Sun 31 Dec, 2017 4:53 pm

Is Global Warming an in-arguable fact or a lie perpetuated only to fatten the pockets of international capitalists.
Who knows. The majority of "experts" seem to agree that Global Warming is a fact, however, at one time there was general acceptance amongst the scientific community that the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around that earth. Almost universal agreement amongst "experts" has been wrong before, however this time there is a critical difference..........

If we behave as if Global Warming is a reality then we will all look a little stupid, but if we behave as if Global Warming does not exist, and it does then the consequences are a lot worse.

This idea is from the thoughts of Stephen Fry and based upon the teachings of Blaise Pascal a philosopher, mathematician and physicist and author of a theory which is known as Pascal's Wager.
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Re: is Global Warming all lies

Post by Ludwig » Sun 31 Dec, 2017 4:57 pm

error in quotation.

If we behave as if Global Warming is a reality and we're wrong, then we will all look a little stupid, but if we act as if Global Warming does not exist, and it does, then the consequences are a lot worse.
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Post by AMGC36 » Sun 31 Dec, 2017 8:09 pm

Even if they 1/2 right its not good
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Post by 70499 » Sun 31 Dec, 2017 10:30 pm

A nuclear winter cures global warming. :laughing6:
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Post by Mercmad » Mon 01 Jan, 2018 8:33 am

People such as myself understand that global "climate change' as it is now known is a thing. Not a proven thing as there are just as many alleged scientists saying that man has changed the climate to those who say" look at the facts" . We so often hear that such and such a hail storm is the worst in 50 years or the snow storms of 2017 are the worst since 1967 and so on . What they are in effect saying is that since records began, we have already had some really bad weather events but not as bad as when we first started 'changing the climate" . What Global climate change is, is the theory that made made carbon dioxide emissions might increase the worlds average annual temperature by 2=4 degrees over a 50 year period.
OK so far? Because as any meteorologist will tell you , the effect of planet warming by 2-3 degrees over the last 15 years hasn't happened yet and what we are experiencing is simply weather.
So how do we explain the prediction of Al Gore that by 2005 the polar icecaps have melted away completely? Did they? oh OK he got it wrong but in the meantime he has made billions by touring the world by Jet plane ,staying in large inefficient energy wise hotels calling carbon, the very building block of our existence , a pollutant. And he is one. David Suzuki , has made mega millions running companies also calling humans polluters etc etc . Again the facts are not exactly in their favour but money talks and when you are getting paid billions to keep a myth going at full steam you will say anything to keep it going. EG PM Malcolm Turnbuckle and the light bulbs. Remember that? What about South Australia and the giant battery made in China ? ,one of the biggest actual polluters the world will ever know. Designed to power 30,000 houses for 1 hour. there are more houses than that in my immediate neighborhood and 1 hour? . this is what happens when a guru is listened to rather than an engineer who understands the laws of physics .

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Post by Ivanerrol » Mon 01 Jan, 2018 10:14 am

Global Warming - Too cold for penguins

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Post by Ludwig » Mon 01 Jan, 2018 8:37 pm

Ron,
My whole point. Perhaps you are right but then again, however remote the possibility, what if you are wrong. You didn't address that possibility or the potential consequences. You are betting the existence of mankind against......what?
There are very few cars which drive past my front gate and, should I pull out without looking, the probability of ever colliding with another vehicle, depending upon the hour of day, is so remote as to be barely worthy of consideration. In 18 years I have never had to wait while another vehicle passed by and yet I continue to stop and look both ways. Why would I do that? It costs me time and a miniscule amount of fuel (overcoming limiting friction) plus, no doubt, some wear on clutch and brakes. I stop because the consequences of this one in a million event occurring is DEATH.
I have weighed up the costs and the consequences and resolved to bear the cost burden.
Suggested reading is "Pascals Wager"(remember he is a mathematician) and Stephen Fry...Global Warming (google)
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Re: is Global Warming all lies

Post by Ludwig » Mon 01 Jan, 2018 8:38 pm

p.s.
Don't confuse weather with climate.
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Re: is Global Warming all lies

Post by Ivanerrol » Mon 01 Jan, 2018 11:02 pm

Ludwig wrote:
Mon 01 Jan, 2018 8:38 pm
p.s.
Don't confuse weather with climate.
The MSM and now even the Weather Bureau are doing just that.

Everything is described as extreme weather events now. The reality is that it's just weather.

The warming brigade are rushing to find excuses for the record cold temperatures currently being experienced in the Northern Hemisphere.
But then again, who holds the records? The actual figures have been adjusted so far away from the original data nothing can be believed.
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Re: is Global Warming all lies

Post by Ludwig » Mon 01 Jan, 2018 11:27 pm

but.....I keep asking.........what if you're wrong
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Re: is Global Warming all lies

Post by Ludwig » Mon 01 Jan, 2018 11:40 pm

FFS. I hope that you're right but, just to be on the safe side i'll work as if you're wrong
Extreme cold weather on East coast of USA and extreme hot weather on West coast.
Is it so difficult to understand??
Global warming doesn't mean that the whole earth warms evenly at all times. It means that the trend is towards warming over a long period of time. A result of this is unusual, unpredictable and unprecedented changes in weather patterns. eg snow in Spain a few years back.
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