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Relevance of Motoring Clubs

Post by ngruzevs » Sun 11 Aug, 2019 9:19 pm

Was reading the AOMC magazine, and came across the attached article and stumbled upon the following sentence, "Young people love cars. They are joining online car clubs in droves. The very young are not joining formal clubs because they are rebellious and anti-establishment.

I took a minute to ponder, given I'm 48 and am a member of two clubs, MBCV and Jensen Car Club of Australia. Being in the club scene for 7 years, I don't really agree that young people are rebellious, but rather there's not as many reasons to join clubs these days, in comparison to the 70s/80s/90s. Even the benefit of historic registration may not appeal, given that a lot of them are into mid 90s to mid 2000's.

Given the demographics in many clubs, I think in 10-15 years most clubs will struggle with declining membership, even the well run clubs (those that have good committees).
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Re: Relevance of Motoring Clubs

Post by Michel » Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:48 pm

You're right in a way, however, if a committee ponders to the younger generation, it will attract them regardless.
But it also depends on the club.

If you're in a Japanese drifting club, you're membership is invariably younger than say the RR club or Mercedes Benz clubs.

I don't believe membership will decline, as long as committees are vigilant and move with the times.
I'm in the MBCNSW and we have lots of newer and younger members in the 30-40 age bracket.
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Re: Relevance of Motoring Clubs

Post by ngruzevs » Mon 12 Aug, 2019 8:19 pm

Hi Michel

I think marques that are still on sale today stand a good chance to survive, like Mercedes, Jaguar, etc, but I would think the demographics are getting older, although I have no evidence, e.g. I'm not the membership officer. All I have is anecdotal evidence, as I see very few younger members with kids (like me and my kids), at general meetings and/or club runs, they certainly may exist, but maybe they're just too busy to be active members.

Other clubs that seem to be prospering are the non specific marque clubs, I have a friend who started one of these up in Coffs Harbour (Advanced Motoring Club), they now have over 400 members, but note their dues are $30 per year ($40 for a family).
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Re: Relevance of Motoring Clubs

Post by Mercmad » Tue 13 Aug, 2019 7:44 pm

There are all sorts of motoring clubs out there and some cater for the weirdest of tastes. I dont mind attending club dos that are organised via facebook etc but meeting folks you may never see again isn't as interesting as ,say,a merc club outing where you know a few faces and the vibe is all about the cars. (well...sometimes.) .
I was a in a Hot Rod club almost 50 years ago ,which is still running strong today and they even own their own building .
Most of the guys I was in the club with are either dead or getting into their 7th decade ,So it's not hard to see that we were all kids when It was first founded.
Grouips of like minded enthusiasts forming into a club will always be relevent and no more glaring example can be shown with the Veteran Car club of the UK. It has existed for a Hundred years and the type of cars eligible to be included in the club are all around 100 years old. Such cars are not so popular here because of our road registration rules but in the UK they remain very popular with prices to match. The other has to be the Horseless Carriage club of the US,Along with the website AACA, they remain as strong as ever with no chance of them ever fading away like the mainstream media are because of the internet.

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Re: Relevance of Motoring Clubs

Post by John Green » Thu 15 Aug, 2019 12:59 pm

Michel wrote:
Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:48 pm
You're right in a way, however, if a committee ponders to the younger generation, it will attract them regardless.
But it also depends on the club.
Spot on. A club I know wants to attract younger members, but doesn't have an accessible Facebook page and still runs trips to winery's and fancy restaurants. No coffee and cars, no random drive days, etc.

If we are to group all clubs as a general statement, I feel that they are all going to suffer for some time until the older established members move on and are then replaced with younger members. For sure some clubs are actually doing this, or have older members that actually can relate to younger people, but in general the outlook is grim...
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Re: Relevance of Motoring Clubs

Post by Ivanerrol » Fri 16 Aug, 2019 1:38 pm

It seems - by anecdote- that young people don’t relate to face to face social anymore. Many join anonymous online groups. Won’t even pick up a phone and voice communicate - rather text instead.
Smart hand devices are being accused of dumbing down society and causing a lack in verbal communication, apparently endemic in younger people.

Perhaps the perceived lack of participation in all sorts of enthusiast clubs.

Then anecdotally on my own experience. Younger people have less multi skilling these days. Apart from tradies even changing a tyre is beyond many younger people’s skill.
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Re: Relevance of Motoring Clubs

Post by John Green » Sat 17 Aug, 2019 9:09 am

Ivanerrol wrote:
Fri 16 Aug, 2019 1:38 pm
It seems - by anecdote- that young people don’t relate to face to face social anymore. Many join anonymous online groups. Won’t even pick up a phone and voice communicate - rather text instead.
Smart hand devices are being accused of dumbing down society and causing a lack in verbal communication, apparently endemic in younger people.

Perhaps the perceived lack of participation in all sorts of enthusiast clubs.

Then anecdotally on my own experience. Younger people have less multi skilling these days. Apart from tradies even changing a tyre is beyond many younger people’s skill.
Not sure the "Face to Face" comment is correct. They do, but in a differant way to what my generation did. Run a cars and Coffee meet that is themed to there interests and see how many young people turn up? They are not into long dinners and restaurants and dislike officialdome, this makes events like Concours's not popular for them. That is unless you run something a little differant. Take last years OZBENZ Meet as an example.
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Re: Relevance of Motoring Clubs

Post by ngruzevs » Sun 18 Aug, 2019 9:12 pm

Thanks for all the responses, I was just keen to get a view of peoples thoughts and what other clubs are doing.

I attended a Rolls Royce function drive day today and was surprised by the number of younger members, some were under 30, but the majority were well over 60. A lot of these younger members didn't have a Rolls or a Bentley's, but rather stuff like older Range Rovers and Land Rovers. When I quizzed them on why they joined, they stated they joined as there friends were members.
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Re: Relevance of Motoring Clubs

Post by markb » Mon 19 Aug, 2019 3:58 pm

Interesting post Nick
I joined MBCV IN 1999 and even kept up my membership even whilst living in NSW and maybe dropped off around 2006.

In 2010, having returned to Melbourne from Dubai, I bought my CE (through a tip off on OzBenz) the then MBCV President Brad Owen approached me at the Hanging Rock car show and asked if I would like to display the CE at the Grand Prix...I rejoined only because there was now a younger President and was assured the club was starting to shed its ‘tea and scones’ reputation.

I’ll admit that I haven’t been to that many meetings however have participated in at 4-5 displays per year

As both you , Nick and I have now joined next years Concours committee, I look forward to pulling my finger out. and contributing more.

The best part of MBCV is the knowledge.....that is priceless and where would we be without people like Patrick Devine, just to name one example. Losing that older generation, despite what the youngsters may think, will ultimately be a huge hole to fill.

One of the most fun clubs I’ve been a member of is the VHRR (Vic.Historic Racing Register)....the average age would have been about 60 years old, I was about 30yo....but could these old guys know how to party.... the best story was when they breatholized us at random on Sunday morning at Philip Island...to determine whether you could get out onto the race track ..lol

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Re: Relevance of Motoring Clubs

Post by matthewz108 » Tue 20 Aug, 2019 11:26 am

As they say on a series of pre-engineered Mexican food commercials, "Why can't we have both"...
I enjoy the casual meetings with the older (I'm 43, so maybe one of the younger generation) MBCNSW members and their knowledge and stories are really good to be a part of, but I find the social events are more focused towards the older crowd. That's understandable too, as of the people that actually organise and attend the events, the demographic is largely older people, so that's what suits them. I would prefer to see some younger people organising some events - even non-official events or simply an informal 'cruise calendar'.
The issue (for myself included) I find is that the 'younger' people are more likely to have family and work commitments on the weekends, so although keen car collectors, we just don't have the time to attend many events.
I'm just happy building some friendships and knowledge, attending the odd event and meeting, and getting my mind off work, and waiting for the period of my life when I can afford the time to make the most of being part of the club.
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Re: Relevance of Motoring Clubs

Post by Michel » Tue 20 Aug, 2019 4:25 pm

Clubs and car clubs in particular are what you make of them.
I don't think age has a lot to do with memberships as I have seen all ages at various clubs.

I joined my first car club in 1977 and became seriously active a couple of years later.
I've been President, Vice-president, Judge, Head Judge, International Judge, committee member, event organiser and probably a few more positions that escape me.
I've shown cars, raced them and enjoyed them, all of that with fellow club members.

I now enjoy the outings, the meetings and whilst my work doesn't allow me to be in town often when they're on, I still cherish the times I am able to participate.
It's all about what you make of your club(s).
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Re: Relevance of Motoring Clubs

Post by ngruzevs » Tue 20 Aug, 2019 5:04 pm

Well I may go against the grain demographically, as my wife and I are members of three clubs, MBCV, Jensen Car Club of Australia, Triumph Owners Club and soon to be Rolls Royce Club of Victoria (Even though we don't have a RR or Bentley). The main reason we've joined theses clubs is the social side, we've met so many people we can now call really good friends and obviously Club Reg (as we have 4 cars through the different clubs). I've personally found Clubs have helped me keep mentally balanced, as maintaining a healthy mental state requires effort, especially when you pass the 40 mark (rant over).

I'm not sure how many clubs is too many to be a part of, but will let others determine that.
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