Polishing/waxing.

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newMercowner69
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Polishing/waxing.

Post by newMercowner69 » Tue 21 Mar, 2017 2:53 pm

I've owned Werner(Wilhelm my C200 T Elegance W202) wagon for over 2yrs now,
In that time i've NEVER EVER polished or waxed him ,
Should i?,
&If so what's the BEST polish/wax specifically made for MB,
Or euro/better brands of polish/wax(concours quality),
Also i've never ever treated the leather interior (seats),
What's the BEST (concours quality) leather cleaner/conditioner?,
Cheers&ta,
Ado&Werner/Wilhelm.

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Re: Polishing/waxing.

Post by 230ew123 » Tue 21 Mar, 2017 3:57 pm

There sure is many products for car vanity, nearly as much as make up for women I bet..notice all the car detailing coffee shops popped up the same time as manicure and pedicure shops..?! never been to either personally.., no one would clean your car better than yourself..

As far as comprehensive concours quality stuff from a physical shop goes, bodyshop in bayswater have only good stuff, their prices are ok, they really know their stuff so brace yourself and be prepared for some scrutinization... I believe menzerna is often recommended for mercs being a german company..the internet is full of it, all claim they are the best..

I have tried a few different waxes and sealants, but my car is is over 30 years old..last I applied is fire glaze which is quite nice(also pleasant on the aluminium trims), effective and easy (bird poop does not stick to it). I gave her a bit of clay bar first, which is interesting and time consuming, always surprising how much grime is still on the paint after washing..but anything is better than nothing

lately, I have been more interested in sealants as they are longer lasting. next shall be rejex once the fire glaze wears off

it never ends and rust is inevitably steel's natural state..

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Re: Polishing/waxing.

Post by 230ew123 » Tue 21 Mar, 2017 4:01 pm

but someone who actually does concours here would know better than I..

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Re: Polishing/waxing.

Post by Bartman4800 » Tue 21 Mar, 2017 4:41 pm

Some people here have great results with Leatherique for their leather seats and steering wheels...
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Re: Polishing/waxing.

Post by Starman » Tue 21 Mar, 2017 8:09 pm

I've had modern Mercs for 6 years each and I never waxed them. But I do wash them every fortnight with a basic Wash and Wax.
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Re: Polishing/waxing.

Post by Giles » Tue 21 Mar, 2017 10:39 pm

As your car has a hard clear coat and hasn't been waxed, I'd do the following.
Wash first with a decent car wash.
Dry off with chamois or micro fibre towel
Compound any light scratchs or anomalies on the paint work.
Clay the entire car, bumpers and glass. You can either buy a kit or good cheap bars on EBay. I don't use the lubricant supplied, I rather use car wash and water in an atomiser and rinse as I go.
A good polymer wax will last 4-6 times longer than natural waxes. You can use this by hand or with a random orbital buffer.
I use Meguiars products on a daily basis and get great results.
See Kudos Car Care website or FB page for work done.
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Re: Polishing/waxing.

Post by Giles » Wed 22 Mar, 2017 12:13 pm

These are the two Meguiars products I use, I've tried many others but I've found these to offer the best finish for a fraction of the cost of the exotic brands.
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Re: Polishing/waxing.

Post by Lance » Wed 22 Mar, 2017 4:54 pm

Hello Giles,
Great info but I have a couple of questions;
Will the compounding remove those fine scratches that are in the paint? I assume it is mild abrasive. Is it best to use a random orbital sander?
If you compound, wouldn't that remove the need to clay bar, as the compounding would remove the small dirt particles, or should you clay bar then compound?
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Re: Polishing/waxing.

Post by Giles » Wed 22 Mar, 2017 6:42 pm

I clay bar first, then compound first with a random orbital.
Trying to do it by hand on suface scratches is a waste of time & effort.
Meguiars is quite fine and won't remove the stuck on grit that a clay bar and lubtricant will.
Neither will it take excess paint or clear coat, depending the era of the car.
By claying prior to compounding you'll have an easier suface to work with.
Once the surface is compounded then wax with the Ultimate liquid wax by hand, it comes off easily and leaves little if any residue. It will protect the paint, leaving a very smooth surface and make maintaining the car a breeze.
Here's an example of what can be done for 36 year old paint.
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Re: Polishing/waxing.

Post by Lance » Wed 22 Mar, 2017 6:51 pm

Thanks for that info, will go out and buy the products and show the results when I eventually get around to it. Will apply it to my W123. Have already polished, clayed and waxed the car, but after a few months I can start to see all the small scratches again.
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Re: Polishing/waxing.

Post by newMercowner69 » Tue 20 Jun, 2017 3:55 pm

What's the O.E.M. brand of polish to Mercedes Benz?,
Is it Mezerner,
Carlack,
Porzelack?,
Sonax?.

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Re: Polishing/waxing.

Post by kimrh » Wed 21 Jun, 2017 1:30 pm

I buy from these guys based in Vic - WAXIT Car Care
There own brand of random orbital polishers are top class as well for the DIY user (without the big ticket price of the German Brands used in Pro Shops)
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