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Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by New123 » Sat 29 Dec, 2012 8:09 pm

My 230E has a nice set of wheel covers and I think they look pretty good, esp with the white walls.

However, I have been contemplating putting a set of (of 5) 14 " bundts on, also with whitewalls.

Are there any major pros or cons to this decision, other than whether or not I like the looks? Major diff. in unsprung weight? (I know this is not a "performance" vehicle, but I'll take any help I can get!)

What are the general thoughts on aesthetics - are bundts better looking or are the classic wheel covers more preferred?

(This is, of course, assuming the bundts are cleaned up nice and looking new).

I appreciate any comments for either side.
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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by Giles » Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:48 pm

Hi Toby,

This is a complex issue you are dealing with.

Here are a few examples from my recent cars.
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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by vegetable_soup+3 » Sun 30 Dec, 2012 3:38 am

So far as 'Looks' are concerned, Giles has thrown you a googlie there Toby.
Each of those reps look terrific!

Whether Bundts would look better on your car :dontknow:
Must say when I first sighted the combo of whitewalls and original wheel covers on your "Old Thom Hobbes" I thought they were a standout. Really well-suited on your English Red.
I agree with you-it's a tough call. Anyway, judgments of what looks right to individuals change for sure over time- like, the W123's are clearly returning to fashionable but in a fustular kind of way. Sort of like the humpback whale: massive, but playful and sporting warts and barnacles.

So, Klinky Krome, or ornate Chariot Wheels with Protruding Hub? The first require minimal upkeep. The wicked ones look designed for scythe attachment, but a b#g^#r! to keep clean!

Half inch diff in width between your original steelies, and most 14 inch Bundts.Not sure about weight- the alloys are plenty heavy, but plenty strong.Have hefted my daughter's 230E steelies with 195/70 R14's on. They seemed half the weight of my 280E Bundts fitted with (oversize) 215/65's.

Or you could go roolly radical, loik me, and fit dustbin lids!
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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by ANF » Sun 30 Dec, 2012 10:16 am

It's a matter of personal choice!
I like vegie soups second pic and I would persoanlly go for Centras (I have some for my 108) or Pentas :smile:
Most likely go for 15 or 16 inch as well to give you a better choice of tyre.
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Post by Hendrik » Sun 30 Dec, 2012 11:27 am

The hubcaps are original equipment, I prefer them because they are easy to keep clean and give it that classic look.
However it is a personal choice, here is a cheap set of bundts http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI ... SS:AU:1123

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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by MR300TD » Sun 30 Dec, 2012 12:32 pm

I have had steel rims (hubcaps) in the past which was nice but my personal preference is for a nice set of bundts. They are a good looking wheel and suite the car perfectly.
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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by New123 » Sun 30 Dec, 2012 1:57 pm

Hendrik wrote:The hubcaps are original equipment, I prefer them because they are easy to keep clean and give it that classic look.
However it is a personal choice, here is a cheap set of bundts http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI ... SS:AU:1123

I saw those and it's very tempting, as they're not too far from home. But, I'm not looking for tyres, so there will be a storage/disposal/selling issue and an additional cost for a proper set of lug bolts. The cleanup and repainting of the wheels is the kind of project I actually enjoy. The before/after difference (i.e. "wow") makes it all worthwhile.

After a bit of research, it appears the bundts average around 14lbs each and the steelies about 21-22 lbs each (I don't know if that includes the wheel covers or not. Probably not.). So an overall savings of around 28lbs (12.7kg) in unsprung weight (and an additional 7lbs saving in sprung weight with an alloy spare in the boot) would make quite a noticeable difference in handling, ride, performance and economy. On the other hand, since it's more about the "look" I suppose than anything, and the handling, ride, performance and economy are already pretty darn good, is it really worth the cost, time and effort?
Not at the moment. I think I'll leave well enough alone and enjoy it the way it is. (One day maybe...)

Thanks everyone for your input.
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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by Giles » Sun 30 Dec, 2012 6:11 pm

When it comes to selling, I offer two options. One with standard tyres and hub caps and secondly Bundts with white wall tyres or white wall inserts.

The W116 I sold this year I offered the two options. The Bundts/white wall option was an upgrade of $500-. I had more enquiries when I added the Bundts option and I even had calls from people wanting to just buy the Bundts and white walls.
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It would appear that the majority of punters preferred the Bundts and white walls.

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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by MR300TD » Sun 30 Dec, 2012 6:25 pm

Bundts with whitewalls are a good look :love4:

Where do you find the whitewalls?
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Post by Giles » Sun 30 Dec, 2012 11:25 pm

The white walls for the W114 sedan and W114 coupe I found on EBay.

The W116 I had white wall inserts ( flappers ) fitted along with tubes to prevent any air leak. Again purchased the flappers on EBay.

Probably will fit flappers to the steelies ( 14 x 6 1/2 ) with coded caps for street appeal on the rally coupe.
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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by New123 » Mon 31 Dec, 2012 12:16 am

Crap. The more I think about it, the more I am warming up to the idea of bundts with white walls. It appears the classic wheel covers may have a slight advantage in the looks department (from exit polling data) BUT, the practical/mechanical/performance advantages of the lighter bundts have them beaten hands down (IMO).

SWMBO says the covers look much better (She's a graphic designer so , to her, appearance rules) and the money spent for another set of wheels is wasted when it could go to better things... blah blah blah...

Need to sleep on it some more I suppose. :think:
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Post by Greg in Oz » Mon 31 Dec, 2012 1:37 am

I have always thought that the painted stainless steel wheel covers best suited the models to which they were fitted (up to and including the 107, 116 and 123). I have never thought the "bundt" (baroque) alloys to be particularly attractive although I'm sure most have grown to accept them as being the correct appearance alloy wheel for the older models. The primary advantage of the "bundt" alloys is that they are a forged construction and are one of the lightest and strongest wheels available.

The flat-faced 15-hole "manhole cover" alloys that came after the "bundts" were also an exceptionally strong wheel and did offer an appearance improvement over the plastic wheel covers that were fitted to the steel wheels on the 126, 201 and 124.

I believe if you stay with one of the wheels originally offered or something optionally available but still period correct (ie. no oversized or "bling" wheels), you can't go wrong.

Now, let's see... When I need new tyres for my 500SLC, will I stay with my 15" x 7" bundts or will I go with either my 15" x 7" or 16" x 8" AMG Pentas? Decisions, decisions...
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Post by AMG » Mon 31 Dec, 2012 9:03 am

given logic, one would go for the 16x8 pentas, as those afford the best range of high performance tyres, which gives you a higher safety margin when driving on your rallies.... FLAT OUT :laughing6:

keep the 15's for concours.
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Post by 300TDT » Mon 31 Dec, 2012 9:08 am

Toby, I agree with SWMBO.
I think the set-up you have in your avatar looks perfect! Especially in red.
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Post by Mercmad » Mon 31 Dec, 2012 9:33 am

I prefer the alloys as the cars (any model,I have tried them all) drive so much better with less unsprung weight. I went from 14 x 6.5 steels with caps on the 6.3 to 15x 7 bundts with 225 tires. The difference is amazing. The 14"s held on well in high speed turns but slow speed tight turns squeeled like hell .I put this down to the steel wheels flexing uder load The 15's make the steering more positive and the road feel is lighter. No more screeching tires when acelerating either,a normal 6.3 trait. (yeah right...) .braking performance,while it was good before is even better now that the brakes can breath more cooling air. a big plus when there is 1/2 a ton of engine up front.
I have the steels and caps with bolts on ebay. Very rare wheels in great conditon so they are expensive. :laughing6:
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Post by KimB » Mon 31 Dec, 2012 10:22 am

Greg in Oz wrote:I have always thought that the painted stainless steel wheel covers best suited the models to which they were fitted (up to and including the 107, 116 and 123). I have never thought the "bundt" (baroque) alloys to be particularly attractive although I'm sure most have grown to accept them as being the correct appearance alloy wheel for the older models. The primary advantage of the "bundt" alloys is that they are a forged construction and are one of the lightest and strongest wheels available.

The flat-faced 15-hole "manhole cover" alloys that came after the "bundts" were also an exceptionally strong wheel and did offer an appearance improvement over the plastic wheel covers that were fitted to the steel wheels on the 126, 201 and 124.

I believe if you stay with one of the wheels originally offered or something optionally available but still period correct (ie. no oversized or "bling" wheels), you can't go wrong.

Now, let's see... When I need new tyres for my 500SLC, will I stay with my 15" x 7" bundts or will I go with either my 15" x 7" or 16" x 8" AMG Pentas? Decisions, decisions...
You said it all Greg. I've never been a fan of the Bundts. I'm looking at a second 380SEC which has Bundts at the moment and Oh Lordy they look awful on the big coupe. The painted wheel covers provide a nice balance with the rest of the car as depicted in the photos shown so far in this post subject.
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Post by Giles » Mon 31 Dec, 2012 11:24 am

I too was never fan of Bundts until I realised it was the unkept ones that took away from their beauty. The weight factor of steel rims is a concern when it comes to performance. You really notice the difference when you change a steel rim over to an alloy.

The cost of 14 inch Bundts is incredibly low and the 15 inch are the other end of the scale. Below is a photo of a set of four 14's I recently purchased, complete with tyres (90% tread Bob Jane squealers) caps and bolts. They just needed a clean up and some painted areas touched up. The two on the left were how they were when purchased and the two on the right were after the tidy up. Not too bad for a $100- investment.
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Bundt vs Steelies and caps
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Fresh from painting yesterday, so still to be rubbed back and buffed amongst many other things. Ginger with 6 1/2 inch x 14 inch steelies, caps and rebuilt end.
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Lastly, Stirling, looking pretty bored with hubs and caps. Looked a lot better with Bundt/white walls and chrome wheel arch moulds. :laughing6:
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I also agree with KimB, W126 and Bundts don't go together. Just doesn't look right.

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Post by Greg in Oz » Mon 31 Dec, 2012 1:12 pm

KimB wrote:
Greg in Oz wrote:I have always thought that the painted stainless steel wheel covers best suited the models to which they were fitted (up to and including the 107, 116 and 123). I have never thought the "bundt" (baroque) alloys to be particularly attractive although I'm sure most have grown to accept them as being the correct appearance alloy wheel for the older models. The primary advantage of the "bundt" alloys is that they are a forged construction and are one of the lightest and strongest wheels available.

The flat-faced 15-hole "manhole cover" alloys that came after the "bundts" were also an exceptionally strong wheel and did offer an appearance improvement over the plastic wheel covers that were fitted to the steel wheels on the 126, 201 and 124.

I believe if you stay with one of the wheels originally offered or something optionally available but still period correct (ie. no oversized or "bling" wheels), you can't go wrong.

Now, let's see... When I need new tyres for my 500SLC, will I stay with my 15" x 7" bundts or will I go with either my 15" x 7" or 16" x 8" AMG Pentas? Decisions, decisions...
You said it all Greg. I've never been a fan of the Bundts. I'm looking at a second 380SEC which has Bundts at the moment and Oh Lordy they look awful on the big coupe. The painted wheel covers provide a nice balance with the rest of the car as depicted in the photos shown so far in this post subject.
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I think the problem with any 14" wheel on a 126 is they just look too small after seeing the later 126 models running 15". You also often see an early 126 looking run down with dirty bundts which only makes matters worse. Just keep in mind that the early 126 was offered standard with either 14" bundts or 14" steelies with silver-grey plastic covers, not the colour-matched stainless steel covers from previous models. For an owner of a an early 126 looking for an upgrade, the best options would be 15" manhole cover alloys from a late 126, AMG Pentas, or 15" bundts (that were offered as a rare option on the early 126).

JoeB wrote:given logic, one would go for the 16x8 pentas, as those afford the best range of high performance tyres, which gives you a higher safety margin when driving on your rallies.... FLAT OUT :laughing6:

keep the 15's for concours.
Joe,

I agree that the 16" x 8" offer a bigger choice of performance tyres and with 225/50 tyres they should also help address the need for more traction on the rear of the 500SLC (although, as Ron has done on his 6.3, I could possibly go wider to a 225/55 or 225/60 on the 15" x 7" instead of the 215/60 I have now). One problem with going wider on the SLC is the tendency for a 107 to tramline with wide front tyres. I also suspect tramlining can result from the additional outward offset of wider wheels such as the Pentas. Let's face it, MB designed their suspension and steering geometry around wheels such as the 14" steelies and bundts. For my situation there is also the issue of some rough roads in some of our rallies. The necessary lower sidewalls on the larger rims not only worsen the ride comfort, but increases the risk of tyre or rim damage (although not to the extent of many modern cars on 20").

The final question is of appearance. The 15" bundts suit the SLC well but I also like the aggressive look of the Pentas. I'm just not sure whether 15" or 16" suit it better. If going with the Pentas I am also unsure whether to leave them silver or whether to polish the rims and paint the centres in the gun-metal grey of the lower body panels of the 500SLC. Fotografa's black 500SLC looks great with 16" Pentas with polished rims and black centres but obviously mine would look wrong with thistle green centres.

I know this discussion is dealing primarily with the appearance comparison between bundts and wheel covers, all most likely in 14", but given other wheel designs and sizes have been mentioned I consider it is worth including discussion on the pros and cons of those larger sizes and their appearance.

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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by Giles » Mon 31 Dec, 2012 1:25 pm

Greg, you really need to rid yourself of those 15x 7 Pentas :dance:

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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by New123 » Mon 31 Dec, 2012 2:04 pm

For the record, the Pentas look good on the SLCs, but for my w123, the purist in me will only allow the standard wheel covers or the alloy wheels which were optional for the new car purchaser in 1981. I realize the white walls may not have been available as an option, but I'll let that part slide. :whistle:

Obviously this isn't an easy question as everyone has a different opinion. All good arguments on both sides.

A little playing around with photoscape (My old version of Photoshop stopped working long ago) to get an idea...

Now...
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Bundted...
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Hmm. Not totally convincing on looks alone, but not bad either.
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Post by New123 » Mon 31 Dec, 2012 5:54 pm

New123 wrote:I realize the white walls may not have been available as an option, but I'll let that part slide.
Actually, according to the data card reference list, option code 641 - white wall tires. Right!
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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by AMG123 » Thu 04 Dec, 2014 11:03 pm

I have several W123s, variously sporting Bundts, Pentas and full wheel covers.

However, when recently converting my daily driver dual fuel LPG/petrol 230E to a Getrag 5 speed manual, I agonised over wheels before deciding on a set of steel W126 rims I had lying around. Stripped, etch primed, and refinished in wheel silver I think they have just the right appearance fitted without caps.

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Post by pastelgrey300D » Fri 05 Dec, 2014 11:29 am

That looks really good! I reckon it works especially well seeing that the car is silver with black trim.

W123s look really good when you make all the rubber and plastic trims BLAAACK

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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by markb » Sat 06 Dec, 2014 11:30 am

It's interesting re-visiting this thread after of a couple of years and hearing Giles comments about receiving far more interest in his 116 when fitted with the whitewalls. Toby's modified photos of his car to me looks better with the matching hubcaps and W/Ws, just as I had on my 2 x white 108's.
With time, older Benz's are being appreciated more and more, and 10 years ago a 123 was not old enough for my classic tastes.....however now with a CE123 and having done the paint-on, flappers and now real W/Ws, I believe they look ok on bundts on a midnight blue car. I even sold a set of steelies and caps that I was going to fit, only because the 14" Bundts are original to the car.

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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by AMG » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 11:52 am

mmm whitewalls and hubcaps....

I think it depends on the colour.... with the english red paint you can easily have a foot in each camp, both look fantastic.

I think Mark has a point regarding the really dark colours and the barock alloy wheels looking a little more uplifting.

But that pic of Giles 116 (I think it is caledonia green?) and hubcaps kind of tips the scales in favour of the caps.

My theory is that it works like this....

If the car has non-metallic paint, in a light colour (or 'bright' colour) then hubcaps & whitewalls look fantastic. - think cayenne orange / englishrot / sonnengelb / caledoniagrun / chinablau etc...

If the car has metallic paint or a dark solid colour, then the barock alloy wheels seem to better suit the vehicle. - think mittelblau / anthrazitgrau / astralsilber / cypressgrun / milanbrun etc.

Mostly I think personal preference seems to dictate, but the barock alloy wheels do not always look better on some 123's. Perhaps it's because they always look dirty (never cleaned properly) or perhaps the chrome in the hubcaps seems to bring the colour out better in some ways.
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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by Tony From West Oz » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 12:51 pm

On a more practical level, I find that the alloy wheels require much more cleaning than the steelies (hubcaps stay clean longer).
I like the silver painted steelies - they look great! How are they to clean?
We have alloys on each of our cars and it is a pain when we wash the car to have to get the wheel brush out. Paint in the alloys has been eroded in the corners and they probably need refinishing.
I will drag out some steelies and get some whitewalls on them to compare on my 300CD.

Regarding the weight difference between alloys and steelies, the W202 comes with a "weight saving" steel spare wheel. So what has happened? have Mercedes found a way to reduce the weight of steel or have the alloys put on weight?

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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by markb » Sat 13 Dec, 2014 4:57 pm

AMG123 wrote:Stripped, etch primed, and refinished in wheel silver I think they have just the right appearance fitted without caps.

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Cheers.
You've got me thinking, as this morning I went to collect a Fleabay towbar, and the guy gave me a free set of 4 black steelies and hubcaps.. :dance:
2 of them are 6.5" and 2 are 6"... I might have to think about a 'track-set' and return to Historic Regularity days :dontknow:
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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by mathuisella » Thu 07 Jun, 2018 9:56 pm

Oh man, i'm torn... the hubcaps look amazing :P but lighter weight bundts
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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by Tony From West Oz » Fri 08 Jun, 2018 11:15 pm

Lightr weight Bundts?
On the W202, instead of an alloy wheel, they used a steel wheel for the spare wheel as a "Weight saving innovation".
More likely, a "Cost saving innovation"

What is the weight difference between a steelie and a Bundt (of the same size, offset, etc)?
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'86 W124 300D sold (Wife's old car - sold )
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Re: Colour-matched covers vs. bundts. Pros/cons?

Post by Giles » Mon 18 Jun, 2018 8:34 am

More than you’d ever need to know.

https://www.sl113.org/wiki/WheelsTires/Alloys

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