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W204

Postby Ivanerrol » Sun 13 Aug, 2017 11:09 pm

Here's my W204.
W210 wheels.jpg

Here's my W210
W204 wsheels.jpg


You may notice I've swapped the wheels around.
The W204 came with staggered 17 inch sports wheels. 225/45 tyres front 235/40 tyres rear.
The ride seemed a little rough and a clunking sound coming from the front end. I suspected the tyres so swapped the wheels from the W210 to the W204. The tyres from the W210 are 225/55's and are very quiet.

On the W204, tyre noise and rough ride were much reduced however there is still a little continuous clunking noise that shouldn't be there. My car has just 40,000K's on it - just run in.
On checking the O/S forums it seems that there are known issues with the W203 and W204 front suspension. Sway bar links and bushings as well as strut supports can fail in as little as 30,000K's :wall: :wall:
There is also a known failure in a short production run of camber link bushings. My car build date happens to be in the midst of that short run :whistle:

On the plus side. The sports wheels are shod with brand new Continental Contact sport 5 tyres (non run flat). They run very well on the W210. Pity the offset is 20mm out both ends.

Another issue a found regarding the W204. Poor sound insulation through the boot. Many overseas owners coat there boots and spare wheel wells with sound dampener materials.
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Re: W204

Postby AMG » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 12:56 am

Replace the dodgy front bushes with the superpro urethane ones. Makes a HUGE difference and you actually get some steering feel.
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Re: W204

Postby Ivanerrol » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 5:49 pm

Would they be the LCA bushings?

The camber arm bushings are Hydraulic.

LCA,s don't seem to be the issue. It's a continuous drumming clunking sound. I'm dreading it's the strut mounts. They have bearings in them. Big job to change them. Macpherson strut must be removed and taken to a shop to have the coil spring removed and replaced.

On the plus side. I'm really impressed with the Continental Contactsport 5's. The W210 glides Silently limo like along the road with them. I might need to get a set of 17" w210 wheels and put those on.

IMHO the shorter wheelbase of the W204 seems to be suited to 16" with 205/55's rather than the bigger staggered wheel and tyre combination. It's probably OK for those who want a sportier harsher ride but for us Old fogeys who prefer the traditional Mercedes comfort ride :drunken:
W202 - C200
W210 - E240
Departed
W202 - C180 - On consignment to nephew
W126 - 380SE , 380SE (Ex SA Import), 560SEL
W124 - 300e, 260e (ex Japan)
W111 220s (Indonesia) 4 speed manual column shift
W123 230
W116 450SEL
W140 420SEL
W210 E240
W209 CLK 240
W201 190e 2.6 (ex U.K.)
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Re: W204

Postby T-Modell » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 6:12 pm

Hi,
I don't understand. You seem to be a fan of the more older models, now you buy a W204 and basically tell us that it's rubbish after around 40,000kms. Why did you buy it?

In the workshop where I do the V8-ute work, there is (third time) a brand new W205, completely dismantled (seats, dashboard, consoles, carpet, etc etc) ... why? The NOx sensor had an error message. Now, at the third try, they found out, that a leaking hose of the air condition affected it ...

Best regards and good luck
Thomas
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Re: W204

Postby Ivanerrol » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 7:53 pm

I have three older Benz's - two W202's and a W210.
My main DD has been one of the W202's - it has 300,000 kilometres up and needs more work than economically viable to keep it going.
Unfortunately all three of these cars had issues at the same time.
What's worse, my wife is in and out of hospital at the moment and I needed to take her there and the only working car broke down on the way - fortunately only 50 metres away from home.
That bought the situation to a head.

Since I now am in not a situation where depreciation of new cars is appreciated I bought second hand - low k's at reasonable price. There are hundreds of W204's for sale but not many W211's post 2007 or w212's at reasonable price.

Daimler has made 2 million W204's. I was expecting to get more than 40,000 kilometre out of some minor suspension parts.
The Japanese would laugh at this.
Did you know that the W204 sway bar bushings are not replaceable - they are melded to the bar. You need to buy a complete sway bar when the bushings fail. In Australia the sway bar is hundreds of dollars. If you get it changed at the stealership you can count on a four figure bill.
W202 - C200
W210 - E240
Departed
W202 - C180 - On consignment to nephew
W126 - 380SE , 380SE (Ex SA Import), 560SEL
W124 - 300e, 260e (ex Japan)
W111 220s (Indonesia) 4 speed manual column shift
W123 230
W116 450SEL
W140 420SEL
W210 E240
W209 CLK 240
W201 190e 2.6 (ex U.K.)
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Re: W204

Postby T-Modell » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 8:22 pm

Ivanerrol wrote:...
What's worse, my wife is in and out of hospital at the moment and I needed to take her there and the only working car broke down on the way - fortunately only 50 metres away from home.
That bought the situation to a head.
...


I understand and I'm sorry to hear that. All the best to your wife!
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1973 W115 220D 5.0 Pick-Up Argentina, work in progress 2017/18
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