Rust repairs

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Paul S
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Rust repairs

Post by Paul S » Wed 08 Jul, 2015 10:49 pm

Hi guys.
I am needing to do some rust repairs on my 280sel . One of the doors may need a piece of metal cut (internal) and a portion welded.
Has anyone done this and could they recommend someone in Sydney. I have had a floating quote of between 2k-3k
Thank you in anticipation
Paul

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Re: Rust repairs

Post by EdCox » Thu 09 Jul, 2015 11:05 am

Hi Paul,

It could be almost cheaper to replace the entire door. Is it a front door? If so, I have some in either light blue or maroon which would bolt directly on.

It may even be cheaper to replace and paint the new door to match.

If it's a rear door then that's another story.

Is the rust visible from the outside of the car? If not, and it's just an internal piece of metal (i.e. not seen) then the quote seems a bit high as there wouldn't be any bodywork involved, you could almost do it yourself if you're handy with a MIG welder.

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Re: Rust repairs

Post by CraigB » Thu 09 Jul, 2015 6:03 pm

I'm guessing from the quote there is a lot of other rust also? Good doors are getting harder to find but can be found and particularly if it is a tricky part rusted might be the best way to go. Not rocket science though and as Ed states certainly diy with a bit of patience.
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Re: Rust repairs

Post by mrkozzy » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 6:58 am

I did the same to 3 of my doors some time back.
Its a simple job but time consuming.
If I was to have my time over, I would have just replaced the doors and had them painted to match, however I was also having done rear boot wells and rust in the passenger side floor as well as the rear window sill and cracking paint on the bonnet.
You say you were quoted 2-3k......... Unless you are doing more than a couple of doors, then this price is excessive. (I paid 2k for all the work mentioned above).
Sounds like you are being told "we really don't want to do this".
I had the same experience and some of the quotes were much higher. I soon realised most body shops were not interested and most didnt have the expertise. (Most prefer "take off and replace the panel" jobs)
There are plentiful front and rear doors around at the wreckers (here in Melbourne at least) and the going price is $120 -$150 each, complete with glass and furniture.

Surprisingly the guys that did my car were taxi repairers. Guess what they do all day?......Panel beat, straighten, weld, smashed up taxis. This was 2nd nature to them.

The 1st 3 pics are of my car with some of the repairs I had done.
The other pics shows a local wrecking yard a few weeks ago.
Good Luck


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Below some pics from a local wrecking yard


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w116 280se 1975 English Red
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Re: Rust repairs

Post by Alsclk » Tue 14 Jul, 2015 10:52 pm

Hi Kozzy, have u got a good front left door??? cheers Alan
Found one very nice '75 450 SE
previously 380 SE, 220E, S420L, CLK500

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Re: Rust repairs

Post by mrkozzy » Thu 16 Jul, 2015 2:09 am

I'll drop in the wrecking yard over the next day or 2. Let me get back to you after I see what they've got..
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Re: Rust repairs

Post by Mercmad » Thu 16 Jul, 2015 1:20 pm

lichen growing on a car in OZ in unusual. It must has sat somewhere for a long time. :laughing6:

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Re: Rust repairs

Post by McGavin » Thu 16 Jul, 2015 8:30 pm

Mercmad wrote:lichen growing on a car in OZ in unusual. It must has sat somewhere for a long time. :laughing6:
Dodge truck sitting at home covered in it, like spearmint green shag pile carpet. :)

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Re: Rust repairs

Post by Alsclk » Sun 19 Jul, 2015 5:07 pm

mrkozzy wrote:I'll drop in the wrecking yard over the next day or 2. Let me get back to you after I see what they've got..
Thanks for that
Found one very nice '75 450 SE
previously 380 SE, 220E, S420L, CLK500

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Re: Rust repairs

Post by mrkozzy » Sun 02 Aug, 2015 8:00 pm

116 just came in last week to the local wrecking yard. (Springvale)
All the panels & Doors are in VGC.
Passenger front door has a small internal rust spot (see pic) but nothing too drastic. Surface stuff mainly.
In fact this car is mostly intact if you're looking for any other bits.

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They were asking $120 for each door..as is...( I gather that means all door hardware, door trim etc etc )
At the moment it is the only 116 on the lot.

Seems to be the turn of the w126 to go through the crushers and recyclers. There were 6 of them parked next to the w116.
w116 280se 1975 English Red
w108 250s 1967 Graphite Gray

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Re: Rust repairs

Post by Paul S » Wed 05 Aug, 2015 9:09 pm

Guys
All this information has been really useful. I agree that the first quote was from a 'we really do not want to do this ' repairer. The rust is in the drivers door but does not show on the outside I have had another quote for just over $1000 and the repairer is gong to make the bottom part of the inner lower door bit( I am sure this makes sense) and weld it to the original door . The car has been painted about three years ago and I am keen to not change the door if I do not have to as this would be a harder job to match the paint with the rest of the vehicle . Ironically someone rear ended me last week and there is minor structural damage to the right rear It will require a new tail light some and right corner panel repair. The bumpers were pushed into the car but the chrome is still intact . I may need the rubbers to attach onto the metal bits of the right rear bumper. But what I need even more than that is a battery tray as mine has rusted out and a new replacement is $400.Does anyone have one?
Paul

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