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beginnings of a new project

Post by Mercmad » Sun 21 Oct, 2012 5:07 pm

For a lot of years i have thought of building something with a huge mercedes engine and an older chassis. My neighbor ,Wolf Grod came into the pic this week when he turned up with a 170V for parts. A very complete car ,it was basically rooted. So once they pulled everything he needs for a 1938 roadster restoration hes doing he gave me the rest.
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All the wood dissapeared long ago and someone had keep the body together with pop rivets and bits of oil drums.
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The boot floor was a door skin from some 1920's car,complete with door handle...

the interior was ratty but no asbestos...
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Re: beginnings of a new project

Post by eri67 » Sun 21 Oct, 2012 5:28 pm

170 hotrod?
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Post by Mercmad » Sun 21 Oct, 2012 5:29 pm

I need room here so i got rid of all the body .
I will keep this groovy looking demister thing ....
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You can see the ancestral DNA in the design of a 170 when you compare it with later mercedes up to 1992. the layout is basically the same ,even this fuse set up .
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Removing the body took about 5 minutes.
Cons 220SE Cab 009.jpg
The chassis is a pretty sweet design , compare this with a 1935 GM or Ford product. Because this is when the 170 was first designed.
Cons 220SE Cab 010.jpg
Central V section is waisted and incredibly strong. i am going to use the prop shaft to make a pair of exhausts.
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Re: beginnings of a new project

Post by Mercmad » Sun 21 Oct, 2012 5:34 pm

Hot Rod, no ,but something along these lines has been brewing for years...
BIG engine of an older style
M189
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and a bit of 1920's style in the very basic body.
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And create something along these lines..
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With a bit of this but maybe not so scruffy.. :laughing6:
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I have always liked the old pommy specials ,a 1933 Wolseley Hornet.
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Post by eri67 » Sun 21 Oct, 2012 5:57 pm

Sounds great, I'll be watching this one keenly!
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Post by KimB » Mon 22 Oct, 2012 9:56 am

eri67 wrote:Sounds great, I'll be watching this one keenly!
Hey Merky,
I love the idea. Concept looks great. Go for it!
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Re: beginnings of a new project

Post by Mercmad » Tue 23 Oct, 2012 8:59 pm

A factory drawing of the chassis . lots of details in these drawings and I would assume it was for body builders and coach builders so vans,utes, and better quality bodies could be made . The German army made great use of the W170 chassis in WW
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Post by Mercmad » Sat 03 Nov, 2012 9:04 pm

A bit of time spent mocking the chassis and engine together to see what needs to be done.
I tried a spare sump and bell housing in the chassis in much the same place as the old four banger.. a bit too far forward i think.
190SL nose repairs 030.jpg
next i tried a m189 and auto trans on the chassis but about 500 mm further back.
It's a bit high so i can see i am going to have to modify the center of the chassis to lower the engine down about 200 mm .
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Re: beginnings of a new project

Post by Mercmad » Tue 06 Nov, 2012 6:52 pm

This is something along the lines I am looking to accomplish...
http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/Spitfire ... m-20121106

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beginnings of a new project

Post by ansteadeh » Tue 06 Nov, 2012 7:40 pm

Give me 3 yrs and I'll be finished my own projects and come and help you - and be working fewer hrs by then hopefully too

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