Where are the oldies in Australia?

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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby Aegean » Mon 20 Mar, 2017 7:38 pm

Last time I spoke to the seller he was going to take it to his house in Switzerland if it didn't sell.
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby firmaoz » Wed 28 Jun, 2017 7:22 pm

Hi Guys

I have just come across and purchased a RHD Mercedes 170S. The owner tells me it is an original RHD. Any ideas on how many RHD 170S cars were built? Where can I look up the production numbers and engine details whether this vehicle is a matching number car etc. Please help...Thanks.
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby Tazzieman » Wed 28 Jun, 2017 8:10 pm

firmaoz wrote:Hi Guys

I have just come across and purchased a RHD Mercedes 170S. The owner tells me it is an original RHD. Any ideas on how many RHD 170S cars were built? Where can I look up the production numbers and engine details whether this vehicle is a matching number car etc. Please help...Thanks.


The reference Southern Star The History of MB in Australia states around 200 cars/year comprising mostly 170 & 180 models between 1952-5.
If you obtain the data card via your MB stealership you will have info re engine , chassis and gearbox numbers. I presume they can access factory records from that period. The card will also tell you if it was originally RHD.
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby Aegean » Wed 28 Jun, 2017 8:54 pm

Data cards are available, but may not be very clear. If a right hand drive car, the chassis plate will begin 170s / and the body number will begin with an R. Top left field on the data plate. Unlike later cars, they do not have a 22 or 21 to indicate if right hand drive and auto/manual.
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'72 Ranchero GT, Subaru SVX x 4, Subaru Vortex, DKW 3=6, Skoda Octavia Super
and the odd Porsche, Holden, Tatra, Buick............
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby firmaoz » Thu 29 Jun, 2017 7:59 pm

Thanks for the information. Any idea who are the best guys for spares etc. Also will like to know how many 170S are left in Australia at this stage. It would be interesting to find out if possible.
Will post pictures of my car once I get it hopefully by the end of next week. :bounce:
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby Aegean » Thu 29 Jun, 2017 8:57 pm

It depends on the sort of parts you are looking for, The forum sponsor (or his father) may have some, but otherwise Google is your friend - and it helps to know the name of the parts you are looking for in German. How many are left ? Your guess would be as good as anyone's. There are some driving around, but, like mine, there are a lot that are not registered, albeit that they are running and driving. They are certainly not common.
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'72 Ranchero GT, Subaru SVX x 4, Subaru Vortex, DKW 3=6, Skoda Octavia Super
and the odd Porsche, Holden, Tatra, Buick............
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby firmaoz » Fri 30 Jun, 2017 10:54 pm

Hi Thanks for the details. The car definitely has a R in the chassis plates. Its also a right hand drive and matching engine number car. One owner 50 years.
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby firmaoz » Fri 30 Jun, 2017 11:29 pm

Here she is...
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby Mercmad » Sat 01 Jul, 2017 6:04 pm

it doesn't look as though you need any parts . :love4:
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby Tazzieman » Sat 01 Jul, 2017 7:10 pm

A very lucky boy!
Beautiful old car, well done.
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby firmaoz » Wed 05 Jul, 2017 2:18 pm

Tazzieman wrote:A very lucky boy!
Beautiful old car, well done.



Thanks...Doing a bit of detailing on it at the moment. Will post more pics soon. Any idea about the central lubrication on the vehicle? What sort of oil do I need to use?
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby Aegean » Wed 05 Jul, 2017 3:18 pm

90 grade.
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'72 Ranchero GT, Subaru SVX x 4, Subaru Vortex, DKW 3=6, Skoda Octavia Super
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby firmaoz » Wed 05 Jul, 2017 3:47 pm

Aegean wrote:90 grade.


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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby firmaoz » Wed 05 Jul, 2017 3:53 pm

Here she is again after doing some detailing and new tires.
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby Tazzieman » Wed 05 Jul, 2017 7:37 pm

firmaoz wrote: Any idea about the central lubrication on the vehicle? What sort of oil do I need to use?

I have never owned a 50s Benz so I don't know , but you could ask the previous owner. Speaking of whom , what do you know of this car's history?
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby firmaoz » Wed 05 Jul, 2017 9:37 pm

Tazzieman wrote:
firmaoz wrote: Any idea about the central lubrication on the vehicle? What sort of oil do I need to use?

I have never owned a 50s Benz so I don't know , but you could ask the previous owner. Speaking of whom , what do you know of this car's history?


The previous owner was someone in WA who had it for over 50 years. Thats all I know and lots of money has been spent on the car. It is a matching number engine and chassis vehicle as well.
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Re: Where are the oldies in Australia?

Postby Aegean » Thu 06 Jul, 2017 12:09 pm

Before putting oil in the CLS, it would be a good idea to clean all the lines and valves. You will probably find they are clogged up. The o-rings in the valves are difficult to find. The Classic Centre do not have them and they send the valves to Germany to be refurbished.

The pump works on the upstroke as welll not downstroke as you would expect.
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