350SLC Wheels and Tyres or Engine Mounts

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350SLC Wheels and Tyres or Engine Mounts

Post by TheMadRacoon » Mon 20 Nov, 2017 9:54 pm

Rather than hijack the "C250 Tyres" thread I started another.
Ivanerrol wrote:
Mon 20 Nov, 2017 6:59 pm
My W204 C280 needed new tyres at 40,000K's.
The P.O. paid for them before I bought the car.
Staggered wheels - 225/45-17's at the front, 235/40-17's at the rear. Continental Sports Contact 5's. An excellent tyre.

I have the receipt. The P.O. paid $900.00 for those at Bob Jane. Included balancing.
He didn't have the wheel alignment. I have wheel alignments done at the Continental tyre agent in Chifley Drive Preston - $45.00

Hope you didn't overpay :whistle:

Normally I buy second hand tyres from either the Tyre place in Sandringham or over at Sunshine.
Both of these places have deals with stealerships. The tyre place in Sandringham gets tyres off new BMW's.
Or people with brand new cars drive into the tyre stealership and want the 16 inch wheels and tyres changed for 19 or 20 inch stuff :Doh:

The tyres on my W210 are Continental Contact 3 CCS Runflats 225/55-16. They came off a new BMW. Cost me $450.00 for the set.

Ivanerrol is a tightarse always looking for the bargain.
You have my attention, Ivanerrol :think: I never did solve a vibration issue with the SLC. Went through a patch of not driving it but things change, now doing a 375km round trip weekly (hooray!).

On my list to check are engine and gearbox mounts (if the former then I'll do the latter). The flex discs were checked a while back (time, not distance). Vibration comes and goes, around 80 and 100km/h though not always there.

My alloys aren't originals and tyres are cheap. Prefer Michelins really. So one option is to trial a set of good original alloys with good tyres, something that is a known quantity, or possibly later model alloys without agressive rim size or aspect ratio. Don't like too many of the newer designs but admit I don't know them all. But for the purpose of a trial I thought these might be fastest / cheapest options rather than doing the engine mounts.

Your Sandringham/Sunshine leads spark my interest. Question is, if not period alloys then any recommendations on wheel/tyre spec for a trial (and keeper if $/style/no vibrations)?

If it can only be period alloys, would you think/know if these outlets stock any period alloys in good condition (ie good balance)?

Alternatively, any advice on $ expectations (supply & labour) for good quality engine mounts? One budget estimate was $2K from a reputable indie.
Emad,
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1975 350SLC Astral Silver (725) / Blue (2012, 284,900 km - present.... a real Benz, getting better and better)
1988 190E Deep Blue (900) / Cream (2006, 190,000 km - 2007, ~ 215,000 km .... FSH and still spent big $$$)
1974 280E Reed Green (860) / Bone (1993, 316,700 km - 2004, ~490,000 km and still A1)

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Re: 350SLC Wheels and Tyres or Engine Mounts

Post by Ivanerrol » Tue 21 Nov, 2017 9:31 pm

Nearly all the available good second hand tyres from the usual suspects are relatively low profile tyres - 55 aspect or lower.
Most are contemporary 16 inch or above - a few 15 inch but generally widths and aspects which are most likely not suitable for your vehicle.
MB SL's and SLC's being generally highway cruisers rather than true "sports cars" were fitted with comfortable high profile tyres with suspension to suit.

Older style tyre sizes are getting a little harder to source,

I had steering vibration in my W140. It drove me mad. It ended up being the Pirelli' tyres. Once I changed to Michelin it was like driving a different car.
Of course it could be struts or spring rubbers or any other consumable part in the steering.

I don't have any experience at all with W107's. So I don't know the procedure for doing engine and transmission mounts. The latter should be easy.
here's a pictorial on changing the engine mounts - doesn't look to hard at all.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticle ... Mounts.htm

BTW
When I imported my Fiat 132 GLS from the U.K. to Australia back in 1975 it came with the original factory supplied steel belted radials 205/70-14. Virtually unobtainable here. Probably similarly unobtainable now.
W211 - E240
W204 - C280
W210 - E240
Departed
W202 - C200, C180, C180
W126 - 380SE , 380SE (Ex SA Import), 560SEL
W124 - 300e, 260e (ex Japan)
W111 220s (Indonesia) 4 speed manual column shift
W123 230
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W140 420SEL
W210 E240
W209 CLK 240
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Re: 350SLC Wheels and Tyres or Engine Mounts

Post by TheMadRacoon » Tue 21 Nov, 2017 10:20 pm

Thanks Ivanerrol.

That doesn't look too hard, certainly not $2K worth of parts and effort.

I think I will eventually go back to Michelins. The least I got out of any were 80K km (should have done a wheel alignment) and the others were 100K km plus. LandRover and W114. The LR had 3 sets, the W114 two. Got a flat in each car at 100km/h. Just an odd hum is all I heard. Thought I'd better pull over in the Merc. Someone had to wave.me down in the LR. Guess it might have been more noticeable a few km down the road!
Emad,
TheMadRacoon
1975 350SLC Astral Silver (725) / Blue (2012, 284,900 km - present.... a real Benz, getting better and better)
1988 190E Deep Blue (900) / Cream (2006, 190,000 km - 2007, ~ 215,000 km .... FSH and still spent big $$$)
1974 280E Reed Green (860) / Bone (1993, 316,700 km - 2004, ~490,000 km and still A1)

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Re: 350SLC Wheels and Tyres or Engine Mounts

Post by Ivanerrol » Wed 22 Nov, 2017 12:21 pm

Here's one of my Landy's
LB-Usman-Pekanbaru.jpg
That's my driver near the drivers side door.
One day we headed up to Aceh in North Sumatera.
The day before one of the front wheels had a flat tyre and was repaired.
We were barrelling along at around 80kmh which was pretty much flat out in those Series III's when a thumping noise was heard from the front end - suddenly silence.
I told the driver we had better stop. I looked out the front window and saw the front wheel heading off down the road all by itself .
The driver didn't brake at all - we just continued along until stopping on three wheels.

The wheel careened off and too my horror was heading straight for a little roadside coffee shop (Warung). Luckily someone inside saw the wheel heading straight for them and a sudden exit by a few bodies out the glass less windows occurred.
Straight into the little cafe it went, luckily not hitting anyone.

Being Indonesians there were laughs all round.
A couple of hundred in compensation, wheel went back on using one nut from the other wheels and we were on our way again.
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W211 - E240
W204 - C280
W210 - E240
Departed
W202 - C200, C180, C180
W126 - 380SE , 380SE (Ex SA Import), 560SEL
W124 - 300e, 260e (ex Japan)
W111 220s (Indonesia) 4 speed manual column shift
W123 230
W116 450SEL
W140 420SEL
W210 E240
W209 CLK 240
W201 190e 2.6 (ex U.K.)

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Re: 350SLC Wheels and Tyres or Engine Mounts

Post by TheMadRacoon » Wed 22 Nov, 2017 10:19 pm

Ivanerrol wrote:
Wed 22 Nov, 2017 12:21 pm
Here's one of my Landy's
LB-Usman-Pekanbaru.jpg
Something about Land Rovers, and about 60s and 70s photos..... brings back memories of a trip in Ghana to a National Park in an SIII (iirc) LWB. Mum got a lift in an E-Type for most of the way. Being 5 y.o. I thought I got the better deal.
Emad,
TheMadRacoon
1975 350SLC Astral Silver (725) / Blue (2012, 284,900 km - present.... a real Benz, getting better and better)
1988 190E Deep Blue (900) / Cream (2006, 190,000 km - 2007, ~ 215,000 km .... FSH and still spent big $$$)
1974 280E Reed Green (860) / Bone (1993, 316,700 km - 2004, ~490,000 km and still A1)

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Re: 350SLC Wheels and Tyres or Engine Mounts

Post by TheMadRacoon » Thu 23 Nov, 2017 8:45 pm

Update: the radiator fan has a missing blade! Could that be the source of the vibration? I can't say I've ever noticed the fan start / stop (it's viscous coupled) though it must be working correctly because it keeps the engine temperature spot on a fraction above an indicated 80oC, only rising slightly on a very hot day with air con on in traffic, or a touch under in very cold weather cruising at say 80km/h.

Anyway, back to the issue. Could it be the fan?
Emad,
TheMadRacoon
1975 350SLC Astral Silver (725) / Blue (2012, 284,900 km - present.... a real Benz, getting better and better)
1988 190E Deep Blue (900) / Cream (2006, 190,000 km - 2007, ~ 215,000 km .... FSH and still spent big $$$)
1974 280E Reed Green (860) / Bone (1993, 316,700 km - 2004, ~490,000 km and still A1)

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Re: 350SLC Wheels and Tyres or Engine Mounts

Post by Ivanerrol » Fri 24 Nov, 2017 6:14 pm

Radiator fans have offset blades so you can get at the clutch mechanism. This is required to get a tool into the clutch mechanism to hold it still when removing the clutch.
W211 - E240
W204 - C280
W210 - E240
Departed
W202 - C200, C180, C180
W126 - 380SE , 380SE (Ex SA Import), 560SEL
W124 - 300e, 260e (ex Japan)
W111 220s (Indonesia) 4 speed manual column shift
W123 230
W116 450SEL
W140 420SEL
W210 E240
W209 CLK 240
W201 190e 2.6 (ex U.K.)

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