Pagodas in the US

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Pagodas in the US

Post by Gstar » Fri 28 Sep, 2012 11:45 pm

I have just been looking at Pagodas sold in the US. Why are they so much cheaper there than Australia given they are a global classic that would command a price consistent across all markets. Pagodas for example in the UK are comparable to prices in Australia.

Is there a service that can convert them to RHD given you could pick a good one up between $20-$30k.

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Re: Pagodas in the US

Post by Greg in Oz » Sat 29 Sep, 2012 2:34 am

Why would you want to convert one to RHD? They are old enough to be able to register as LHD in Australia and, apart from costing a lot of money, conversion will only devalue the car.
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Re: Pagodas in the US

Post by Gstar » Sun 30 Sep, 2012 12:25 am

Greg,

Thanks I was not aware that left hand drive cars could be brought in of that age. In any case I asked the question as I don't like the thought of driving a LHD car.

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Re: Pagodas in the US

Post by Greg in Oz » Sun 30 Sep, 2012 2:42 am

I don't know where you are located, but many Australian states allow the use of LHD vehicles that are over a certain age. Here in NSW the age requirement is 30 years for either full registration or conditional club registration. I use my LHD 500SLC regularly for club events covering around 6000km per year. It really doesn't take long to get used to driving a LHD car on our roads and it's not as difficult as you may think. I frequently point out to others that I am only sitting about a metre to the left of where I would be in a RHD car. For me, the choice of driving a LHD 500SLC or going without was an easy one.
107023 - 350SLC: 1973, 3sp auto, icon gold, parchment MBtex (sold July 2012 after 29 years ownership)
107026 - 500SLC: 1981, 4sp auto, thistle green, green velour
124090 - 300TE: 1990, 4sp auto, arctic white, cream-beige MBtex
124090 - 300TE: 1992, 4sp auto, malachite (spruce green), black MBtex
201024 - 190E-2.0: 1985, 5sp manual, black, black MBtex
201028 - 190E-2.3 Sportline: 1990, 5sp manual, arctic white, blue leather
201028 - 190E-2.3: 1992, 4sp auto, blueblack, grey MBtex
201028 - 190E-2.3 Sportline: 1990, 4sp auto, signal red, black cloth (parts car)
201034 - 190E-2.3-16 Cosworth: 1985, 5sp manual, blueblack, black leather
YG2S8 - Mini Clubman GT: 1972, 4sp manual, blue, parchment vinyl (my first car which I still own)

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Post by T-Modell » Sun 30 Sep, 2012 3:29 am

Greg in Oz wrote:... It really doesn't take long to get used to driving a LHD car on our roads and it's not as difficult as you may think.....
totally agree, Greg. I've driven with my car in the UK and Ireland and you get used to it quickly. Same as switching back and forth with red/left side of the road. When I'm in Oz I have one "German" moment every visit, where I end up on the wrong side of the road :whistle:

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Re: Pagodas in the US

Post by eri67 » Sun 30 Sep, 2012 8:49 am

I have a lhd car as well, first try is hard, but becomes second nature, but can be scary for passengers !
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Re: Pagodas in the US

Post by Gstar » Sun 30 Sep, 2012 9:33 am

Thanks, and the second part of my question:

Are they so much cheaper in the US because of the 48k made most of them were LHD?

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Re: Pagodas in the US

Post by Mercmad » Sun 30 Sep, 2012 10:48 am

Beware of the US resto quality. A lot of pagodas there are bog ups with crap mechanicals.

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Post by T-Modell » Sun 30 Sep, 2012 8:15 pm

Mercmad wrote:Beware of the US resto quality. A lot of pagodas there are bog ups with crap mechanicals.
Agree, don't believe anything they say and don't believe any photos. I had a friend drive > 200 miles to Miami to have a look at a W111, great photos, acc. to the seller a phantastic car and it was just rubbish. On the other hand this friend told me, that there are good restorers in the US, but you have to know them ... :whistle: ... I didn't buy the car obviously, now I owe him a dinner :laughing6:

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Re: Pagodas in the US

Post by skat66 » Sun 07 Oct, 2012 10:08 pm

A lot of the US cars are being shipped out to Europe where they are much more pricy. Having been to several Pagoda gatherings in the USA, don't think you will get a car that is any good under $35k and then add shipping and GST that will add $6500 on that price.

And to answer your question,on conversions, they do not convert easily and having only seen one in the 20 years I have been associated with them the answer is no they are not economical to convert as a lot of the engine bay items and the dash are LH or RH specific.

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Re: Pagodas in the US

Post by Gstar » Sun 07 Oct, 2012 11:15 pm

Thanks Gary and others who have responded.

Not sure where you are all located but I am in Sydney and will be taking my W123 to the concourse day on the 21st Oct. I would like to chew the fat with as many Pagoda owners as possible so I may see some of you there.

Once again many thanks
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Re: Pagodas in the US

Post by skat66 » Thu 11 Oct, 2012 8:30 pm

Pencil in your calendar the following dates for next year in Canberra where there will hopefully be the biggest gathering of Pagodas in Australia ever held on the Sunday 17 March.

See http://www.pagoda50.com/

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Re: Pagodas in the US

Post by treedoc » Mon 15 Oct, 2012 12:13 pm

Hi Gstar,

Glad to see another Pagodaphile on this site, hope you can make it to Canberra next march
We have a pair of Pagodas one LHD & one RHD both fully registered in Qld, no problems with the ex USA LHD being over 30 years old no Australian import duty applicable, see images attached

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