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New Member in SA W108 "Otto" Baby Blue Benz

Post by Direbear » Tue 13 Dec, 2016 10:02 pm

G'day from down in South Australia. New to the group and wanted to say hello and show my newest member of the family. So back in April, "Large Marge" (the '77 Lincoln Mark V) got sold. Since i still have not repaired the dead engine in my '65 Pontiac, and i was left with only 2 options for fortnightly 300km long trips to help my father. The '79 Trans AM with its 6.6L V8 cruises along nicely but is very thirsty. And the little white '70 Holden Torana is great for running around suburbia, but far too cramped and painful for the 3 hour long drives.... So in May i bought my "Baby Blue Benz", Otto. (short for Otto-Bahn). Otto is a 1968 280SE in Horizon Blue, and had been the daily driver of the nicest little old lady. From seeing the "For sale" ad for Otto, and making the choice to buy him took less than half and hour, it was simply love at first sight from the pics. Called up my friend to help me and we made the 90 minute long drive out into a country town to see the Car. Mechanically very well maintained and looked after, Otto isn't a show car, but he has be well "loved" and cared for even through years of use. After a day of washing and cleaning the underneath and engine bay and vacuuming and cleaning the inside. Otto is 100% complete and 99.5% of everything works perfectly on him. The 0.5% is the central locking leaks the air out after a while... and the original radio seems to have a mind of its own. The brake booster was not the best, giving me a rather weak brake pedal. But credit where credit is due, i must say a big THANK YOU to CraigB for helping me to change it over one afternoon, and since then it has been working perfectly with a firm and strong pedal. CraigB was a complete god-send, who not only helped with the working booster, but also helped remove the old one and change it over too. Traveling from Adelaide to Renmark has never been more comfortable and classy. A real joy for a daily driver.

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Re: New Member in SA W108 "Otto" Baby Blue Benz

Post by 420 SE » Wed 14 Dec, 2016 12:33 am

Looks fantastic!
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Post by pastelgrey300D » Wed 14 Dec, 2016 10:38 am

Welcome to ozbenz! Otto certainly has some cool shedmates!

Regarding the central locking, have a look at this thread. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=12629

The actuators can be fully dismantled and repaired. It's quite easy to work on the system because the hard plastic lines and rubber connectors rarely fail - it's usually the actuators or the connection to the vacuum tank (or a vacuum tank that has a hole) that is the problem - the worst part of troubleshooting is the process of removing and replacing the door cards!
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Post by Direbear » Wed 14 Dec, 2016 3:16 pm

pastelgrey300D wrote:Welcome to ozbenz! Otto certainly has some cool shedmates!
Thank you!
Otto is having a rest for summer with some other shedmates. he is being squeezed into a shed with a 1956 Dodge, 1961 Lincoln Convertable, 1985 Pontiac Fiero and the 1965 Pontiac 4 door hardtop. I moved out the 1963 Cadillac this week to make room to move Otto in. This is only temporary while i register and work on a W114, then Otto will be out and about again.

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pastelgrey300D wrote:Regarding the central locking, have a look at this thread. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=12629

The actuators can be fully dismantled and repaired. It's quite easy to work on the system because the hard plastic lines and rubber connectors rarely fail - it's usually the actuators or the connection to the vacuum tank (or a vacuum tank that has a hole) that is the problem - the worst part of troubleshooting is the process of removing and replacing the door cards!
Is it true there are 2 actuators per door? One for pushing the button up and one for pulling it down?
Whats happening is all the buttons go up and down okay when the car is running, when moving the drivers up and down. It's just you only have 10 seconds or less from turning the car off to lock it before it wont work. So what i do is lock the car before i turn off the engine. Then by the time ive undone my seatbelt and such, i can open the drivers door without the other buttons popping up.
So does this sound more like a vacuum tank issue?...or...?

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Post by beerbaron » Wed 14 Dec, 2016 5:15 pm

I remember seeing the sale advertisment for OTTO

Well done on the purchase, how is the body ?
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Post by pastelgrey300D » Wed 14 Dec, 2016 5:16 pm

Awesome collection! Do you go on the zippel cruises here in Adelaide?
Is it true there are 2 actuators per door? One for pushing the button up and one for pulling it down?
It's all in the one actuator, but there are two diaphragms for lock and two for unlock per actuator. Add the petrol flap and boot lock and there's 15 of those rubber diaphragms in total in the car - the rubber will all be old and all it takes is one or two to perish or split and you'll have a slow leak. Symptoms you described are very similar to what they were on my car - it would work while the engine was running and for about 5-10 seconds after turning off the ignition.
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Post by Direbear » Wed 14 Dec, 2016 8:34 pm

pastelgrey300D wrote:Awesome collection! Do you go on the zippel cruises here in Adelaide?
Nah i don't. I use mine as everyday cars and depending on the situation, which one i register. Plus i never get much time for the cruises. I'm usually busy on a Friday night, well, have been the past 4-5 years now.

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Post by Tony From West Oz » Wed 14 Dec, 2016 10:25 pm

Direbear wrote:
pastelgrey300D wrote:Welcome to ozbenz! Otto certainly has some cool shedmates!
Thank you!
Otto is having a rest for summer with some other shedmates. he is being squeezed into a shed with a 1956 Dodge, 1961 Lincoln Convertable, 1985 Pontiac Fiero and the 1965 Pontiac 4 door hardtop. I moved out the 1963 Cadillac this week to make room to move Otto in. This is only temporary while i register and work on a W114, then Otto will be out and about again.
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Is it true there are 2 actuators per door? One for pushing the button up and one for pulling it down?
Whats happening is all the buttons go up and down okay when the car is running, when moving the drivers up and down. It's just you only have 10 seconds or less from turning the car off to lock it before it wont work. So what i do is lock the car before i turn off the engine. Then by the time ive undone my seatbelt and such, i can open the drivers door without the other buttons popping up.
So does this sound more like a vacuum tank issue?...or...?
It is a vacuum issue. There appears to be a leak, most likely in the locking side (leaks vacuum when doors are locked)
Do you have access to a hand operated vacuum pump? If so, check each actuator (3 doors, fuel filler door and boot lid) is leak free. Then put them all together and check the unlock side at the drivers side under floor piping. With all actuators connected, the system should hold vacuum.Otherwise you need to systematically test the system with only one actuator connected at a time and re-check for correct operation.
You should also check the vacuum reservoir pipes and connections for leaks.
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Post by maddin » Thu 15 Dec, 2016 10:48 am

Congrats!!! Great score...car looks absolutely fantastic! Very cool colour too!
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Post by drew56cus » Sun 08 Jan, 2017 11:19 am

You are very lucky having CraigB and Pastel there close by, two of the most helpful forum members around! Be good to them, they are treasures.
Nice collection too. I got my '56 Ford Sunliner from Adelaide with the help of CraigB.
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Post by markb » Sun 08 Jan, 2017 12:50 pm

Beautiful 108 you have and an interesting collection too.

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