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Post by CraigB » Tue 24 Nov, 2015 11:48 am

How mysterious - had to try myself - seems to work for me but didn't for you either Tony
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Latest newbie...

Post by 1961blueroundy » Sun 29 Nov, 2015 5:49 am

Hi guys,

just registered, iq-test sucessfully passed, here i am...

But let me first introduce myself in a few words. I´m living in the homeland of Mercedes-Benz (Germany), near Kaiserslautern, and i´m about 50.
The mercedes virus infected me in the soon eighties, when i bought my first MB, a 1971 W109 300 SEL 3.5. Unfortunately, i had to sell it soon, because i was just a student by that time an my father wasn´t Vanderbilt...
Nearly three decades passed, until the next mercedes came to me: In 2012 i re-importet a 1961 W120 Ponton 180D ("roundy") from Sweden. This year a 1995 W124 E220 convertible joined the roundy. Both cars are in a very good condition, so i have a lot of fun with these gorgeous cars!

My home forum is the http://forum.mercedesclub.de/. I invite all the ozbenz guys to visit that awesome forum!
Now I´m curious, what´s going on in the australian MB-scene.

Greetings from Germany by 1961blueroundy

Jürgen
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Post by CraigB » Sun 29 Nov, 2015 9:11 am

Welcome Jurgen (sorry i dont have the correct letters on my keyboard to spell your name correctly!) I think it is great when we get the context from other countries in this forum. Thomas is a regular but he is almost Australian I think - he's even got a V8 ute!

I can have a look at the pictures on your forum but my German language skills are virtually non-existent. I had a friend researching and lecturing in cologne - Koeln is it - and after a big night of drinking he taught me to say when i went to the pharmacy Ich habe kompfschmarten (and i know the spelling is incorrect) - At least it made the pretty shop assistant smile - she looked at me confused at first and then as i held my hands to my head and made pulsing movements, she looked into my bloodshot eyes and said ahhhh and came back with some aspirin or something! I survived anyway. But I don't think the way your pubs work would work here, you have a beer and somebody keeps coming around and replacing them and only at the end of the night are you presented with the bill - definitely 'pay as you go' here!
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Post by T-Modell » Sun 29 Nov, 2015 6:55 pm

CraigB wrote:...and after a big night of drinking he taught me to say when i went to the pharmacy Ich habe kompfschmarten (and i know the spelling is incorrect) - ...
Wow Craig,

I'm surprised; most of you guys only know part I of German "Ein Bier bitte", but not the follow-up :occasion5: :laughing6:

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Thomas
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Post by AMG » Sun 29 Nov, 2015 7:14 pm

T-Modell wrote:
CraigB wrote:...and after a big night of drinking he taught me to say when i went to the pharmacy Ich habe kompfschmarten (and i know the spelling is incorrect) - ...
Wow Craig,

I'm surprised; most of you guys only know part I of German "Ein Bier bitte", but not the follow-up :occasion5: :laughing6:

Best regards
Thomas
P. S.: It's Kopfschmerzen ... literally head-ache
LOL Thomas -
Well, he DOES live in Adelaide..... ein zwei polizei. :occasion5: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:
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Post by 1961blueroundy » Sun 29 Nov, 2015 10:21 pm

Hi Craig, hi AMG,

thank you for your friendly welcoming! Yes, i´m also surprised, that Germany is obviously seen down under as a well of beer, a land of pubs, alc ...
So i see, the few germans in that forum have a great and considerable job in order to adjust your points of view... I´ll do my very best!

Consider, Germany is also known as the land of Wurst (sausage), Brot (bread) and Sauerkraut (sauerkraut, no correct translation available). And do not forget the Oktoberfest! More information about Germany on request...

For today, i invite you to notice my post in the W120-section, where Thomas is going to give me some support. Would be great, to find a trace of that extraordinary car!

Greetings from the german :sign2: ,

Jürgen (you can replace ü by ue, so you write Juergen iequally)

PS: Thanks Craig, you where faster than i could type and submit...
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Post by CraigB » Sun 29 Nov, 2015 10:44 pm

That was my point, i didn't have to ask for a beer, as soon as the glass is empty they just replace it with a full one! Is that common in the German pubs? I have wondered if maybe i was just set up by my mate!
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Post by AMG » Sun 29 Nov, 2015 10:51 pm

CraigB wrote:That was my point, i didn't have to ask for a beer, as soon as the glass is empty they just replace it with a full one! Is that common in the German pubs? I have wondered if maybe i was just set up by my mate!
I need to find that pub. :bounce:
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1992 Range Rover Vogue SE 4sp auto Ardenne Green "Oswald"
2012 Renault Sport Megane RS265 Trophy 8:08 6 sp. man. Liquid Yellow "Jean Rédélé"
Previous:
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1987 190E 2.6 4sp. auto Signalrot "Sabine" - which now resides/owns Andrew M's Garage
1972 350SLC Astralsilber "Lurch" - now in the loving care of Craig B
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Post by Lance » Sun 29 Nov, 2015 10:54 pm

CraigB wrote:That was my point, i didn't have to ask for a beer, as soon as the glass is empty they just replace it with a full one! Is that common in the German pubs? I have wondered if maybe i was just set up by my mate
That was normal for the regulars in local pubs in Victoria, just leave your money on the bar and they keep changing over until you say stop, certainly when I was younger not sure if they still do it.
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Post by 1961blueroundy » Sun 29 Nov, 2015 11:16 pm

Hallo Craig,

yes, in some pubs you have to be on your gard. But it is surely not a general custom in germany to set up a guest in a pub :nono: . I think you just had bad luck with your mate. But tell me, what did you see of good old Germany except of that bad pub?


Juergen :sign2:
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Re: Latest newbie...

Post by 70499 » Sun 29 Nov, 2015 11:17 pm

[quote="1961blueroundy] Kaiserslautern,[/quote]

Mmmmmm..... We only talk Schwaebische here on this forum :laughing6:

Halloechen, Servus, Moin moin and welcome.
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Post by CraigB » Mon 30 Nov, 2015 1:02 am

I've been a several times, but each time catching up with my old mate (who has since moved to Perth in Australia which seems almost as far!). There is a lot I like about Germany and the stereotype about the people not having a sense of humour i have always found quite the opposite. My best example is being in Cologne for Carnival. At the time i was working in the UK and flew in after work and back at their flat they had a full on clown suit waiting for me. I thought what the hey, I'm here to have fun and don't mind if I stand out. Quite the opposite, I would have only stood out if I was dressed normaly. Everyone right down to very old little old ladies were all dressed up somehow. First full tram we got on, not one person was without costume - very odd feeling!
I haven't seen a lot of the country, but i have had a good look at the places i have been. I also have a1924 Amilcar, and since there are not that many in the world, it actually makes it easier to seek out people who have one in different countries because everyone seems to know where they are. I have flown into Frankfurt and then driven to Bonn where a guy Helmut Hergarten has a car much like mine. Then i have been to 'the Eifel' (can't remember the village but it had a very old church!) and spent a bit of time there with another Amilcar owner and checked out his collection including I remember driving this huge Hannomag tractor. I also visited a few of his friends with various cars including a Trabant - I was going to say in its natural habitat but wrong side of the country.... still closer than Dave's here in Adelaide. Checked out the Nurburgring since we were in the neighbourhood. We also drove down to Retromobile in Paris. On other occasions we have partied over the border with friends in Maastrich. On another occasion visited a friend and family in Koblenz, and lots of different things to see there too.
So i have been reasonably close to where you are. From the other direction i did a very memorable vintage car rally in Switzerland - fascinating how road signs would change from french to german in the one country depending where you were.
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Post by 71Benz » Sat 05 Dec, 2015 7:31 am

G'day guys,

I have recently bought a dark olive green 1971 250 which I am in love with and thought I'd find a bunch of like minded folks to learn from and share with.

Cheers,

Tim.
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Post by T-Modell » Sat 05 Dec, 2015 6:02 pm

71Benz wrote:G'day guys,

...thought I'd find a bunch of like minded folks to learn from and share with.

Cheers,

Tim.
Noice car Tim, I'm pretty sure, you're right here ... :laughing6:
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Post by Lance » Sat 05 Dec, 2015 7:51 pm

Good to see another W114 on the forum. They are, of course, the best Merc.
Regards,
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Post by CraigB » Sat 05 Dec, 2015 10:54 pm

Yep i really like your car and its funny because I'm in the rarer camp of not being a big fan of whitewalls, but i really think they set off your car nicely.
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Post by 71Benz » Thu 17 Dec, 2015 6:52 pm

Lance wrote:Good to see another W114 on the forum. They are, of course, the best Merc.
I'm not saying you're the smartest man alive Lance but I'm not not saying it. :laughing6:

Whats your thoughts on spending the extra cash when buying parts and keeping it genuine?

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Post by 71Benz » Thu 17 Dec, 2015 6:55 pm

Thanks guys, I call her Olive due to the dark olive green colour. She is quickly becoming my pride and joy, but I must admit I've been sleeping a little less well as I live near a pub and get a bit worried when I hear the lads outside my garage on their way home on a friday night. Is that a common thing people here go through or do you just get used to it?

Cheers,

Tim

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Post by Lance » Thu 17 Dec, 2015 8:00 pm

I have only used genuine parts and prices are reasonable from the forum sponsor. Not worth going for non genuine.
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Post by cuisses » Thu 17 Dec, 2015 10:10 pm

71Benz wrote:Thanks guys, I call her Olive due to the dark olive green colour. She is quickly becoming my pride and joy, but I must admit I've been sleeping a little less well as I live near a pub and get a bit worried when I hear the lads outside my garage on their way home on a friday night. Is that a common thing people here go through or do you just get used to it?

Cheers,

Tim

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Post by T-Modell » Fri 18 Dec, 2015 12:14 am

cuisses wrote:...
I never lose sleep over my Benz - after all, it is only a car. In fact I always sleep soundly, in the back seat of the W108, with one eye open and a loaded shotgun on the parcel shelf. I haven't had a single problem with drunken louts yet.
:laughing6: :laughing6: I'm sure Donald Trump would give you a US visa straight away :laughing6: :laughing6:
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1973 W115 220D 5.0 Pick-Up Argentina, work in progress 2017/18
1986 R107 500SL, arctic white, the midlife crisis viagra replacement
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Post by brette013 » Tue 22 Dec, 2015 4:38 am

Hi everyone,
I'm a 21 year old student who, after being fed up from working on my first car all the time (an '85 Nissan Gazelle), finally managed to move on from my deranged love affair of a fragile 80's Datsun.

I recently purchased a 1991 300CE-24 at 210000km's, finished in a Jewish Racing Gold (Beige). Have now realised I should have got it inspected, but then again it was a steal so I still have a budget for repairs that I can't do myself. It'll be a weekend/transporting people car mainly as I ride a motorcycle to work and uni, should help keep wear and tear to a minimum.

Have never been big on Mercedes Benz's to be honest even though I have some German heritage and love sauerkraut, but am now A BELIEVER! (to an extent..). Hope to get some useful tips for the forum here and parts if needed (would like to source a original tool kit).

Cheers,
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Post by pastelgrey300D » Tue 22 Dec, 2015 9:52 am

finished in a Jewish Racing Gold (Beige)
Bahaha! That's hilarious! Was the AMG badge on the boot your idea or a previous owner?... AMG badges on non-AMG cars make baby jesus cry.

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Post by brette013 » Tue 22 Dec, 2015 3:40 pm

Previous owner in it's life. Want to get rid of it.
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Post by CraigB » Tue 22 Dec, 2015 8:25 pm

Welcome Brett, its a nice looking car. I hope the seller had a good reason to sell and wasn't passing off problems they found. But they can be reliable cars and lots of advice on here. Also if your keen, the big difference is that you can work on these cars with a bit of advice. And if you do want to remove the badge - each to their own i say if you don't mind it - but it is probably stuck with double sided tape and very careful cutting with a stanley knife blade, keeping the sharp bit closest to the plastic badge, it should come off pretty easy and then the remaining tape will just peel off i would think.
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Post by 1961blueroundy » Wed 23 Dec, 2015 9:30 pm

brette013 wrote:Have never been big on Mercedes Benz's to be honest even though I have some German heritage and love sauerkraut, but am now A BELIEVER! (to an extent..). Hope to get some useful tips for the forum here and parts if needed (would like to source a original tool kit).
Hi Brett,

congratulations to your german heritage and your love to Sauerkraut! I share both... Do you know Sauerkraut with Leberknödel? That creates the perfect unity...
That early W124 Coupé is a good choice, at least you won´t have the typical problems with the cable harness of the later models.
But forget that minimalist tool kit, it is not really useful. If you are looking for helpful technical documentation you should try to get the "WIS-CD" for your model (that means something similar to this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-E ... Vo&vxp=mtr Or you should try to registrate to WIS-online. But I don´t know if this is possible for australian MB club members.

What about the interior of your car? Is it leather or textile?

Cheers,

Juergen from good old Germany
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Post by brette013 » Thu 24 Dec, 2015 1:26 am

Thanks for the tips people. This talk of Leberknödel makes me hungry! My father, the culinary equivalent of Homer Simpson, could only do potato fritters...

Before I go, I think it's leather seats but correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by CraigB » Thu 24 Dec, 2015 9:07 am

Yep that's leather - great looking interior. The wooden box between seats were produced by amg i believe but also no doubt other aftermarket manufacturers. The steering wheel looks like it is just starting to lose its finish and you can easily save that with a leatherique steering wheel kit - treats the leather and then it has dye and a coating to bring it all back - their products also good for preserving your leather.
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Post by MilSurp » Mon 28 Dec, 2015 11:05 pm

Hello Ladies & Gentlemen,

The first MB that joined our family was a 300 SEL from about 1969 about 30 years ago.

I am now considering my options for a new car and would really appreciate some advice from some of the more experienced participants here if not too much trouble.

In particular I really like the look of the late 60's to early 70's models,.... with an eye on a 1974 made 230.4 automatic, or a 1972 made 280S (not that I haven't discounted other years or models).

Here is my dilemma,... I'm after a reliable daily drive (3-400km/week) that won't cost me the earth to service and maintain,.... I am in my late 40's with 3 children between 10 & 3, whom I ferry to school fairly regularly.

Fuel economy is also a consideration,.... and whilst I accept that we are talking about yesterday's technology, nevertheless I'm not really interested in a 3.5l V8 that consumes +22l/100km driving in Sydney traffic.

Subsequently I'm very interested in what are people's thoughts regarding the 4 cylinder engine that comes in the 1974 230.4?

Logic tells me that I shouldn't be considering the things that I am,..... nevertheless I am so drawn to the character and class that this sort of automobile offers.

I thank you for your thoughts in advance.

Respectfully,
Michael
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Post by CraigB » Tue 29 Dec, 2015 4:48 am

Welcome. The 74 is a W114 chassis and therefore is a bit lighter and rear suspension a more advanced independent set up compared to the W108 280 with swing axle. Ive never had w114 so can't really compare and don't know the 4 cyl engine but I expect it would do noticeably better on fuel and do a good job for the purposes described. Neither a new cars so make sure you have a good drive to get the feel of the model and best drive more than one. And of course condition is so important and in particular rust - plenty of descriptions in past on here of where to look. Good luck - lots of discussion on here about better to do it in some cheap old toyota but i love the fact exposing your kids to old classics and i know what is more fun.
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Post by T-Modell » Tue 29 Dec, 2015 8:06 pm

MilSurp wrote:Hello Ladies & Gentlemen,
...
Here is my dilemma,... I'm after a reliable daily drive (3-400km/week) that won't cost me the earth to service and maintain,.... I am in my late 40's with 3 children between 10 & 3, whom I ferry to school fairly regularly.
Fuel economy is also a consideration,.... and whilst I accept that we are talking about yesterday's technology, nevertheless I'm not really interested in a 3.5l V8 that consumes +22l/100km driving in Sydney traffic.
...
Respectfully,
Michael
Hi Michael,

get a W115 200D, you're looking for the "eierlegende Wollmilchsau" (egg-laying Wool-Milk-Pig). The 200D is pretty reliable, consumption should be alright, it should make the max speed allowed, just your kids have to get up 20 minutes earlier every day :laughing6:

Good luck
Thomas
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1967 W111 250SE Cabriolet, horizon blue
1973 W115 220D 5.0 Pick-Up Argentina, work in progress 2017/18
1986 R107 500SL, arctic white, the midlife crisis viagra replacement
2007 R171 SLK350, calcit white
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Post by pastelgrey300D » Tue 29 Dec, 2015 9:17 pm

Hi Michael, I've driven a 230.4 automatic and found that it went better than I expected - the 230.4 motor actually has the same power as the earlier 220 Finnie 6 cylinder motor. With the 5 bearing crank it's nice and smooth too. Would have no problem driving it in everyday traffic.

One very easy power upgrade would be to install a weber conversion kit - it's a simple bolt on kit:

http://www.jameng.com/products/Mercedes ... -DGAV.html

Going by the results of doing one of these conversions to a Finnie, it would give a handy power increase to a 230.4 and probably improve fuel consumption. Having said that, you won't get much better that 10-15 l/100. If you are really after economy, a diesel would be the best bet - but as Thomas has pointed out the 220 and 240D's are painfully slow with an Auto gearbox.
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Post by MilSurp » Wed 30 Dec, 2015 7:43 am

pastelgrey300D wrote:Hi Michael, I've driven a 230.4 automatic and found that it went better than I expected - the 230.4 motor actually has the same power as the earlier 220 Finnie 6 cylinder motor. With the 5 bearing crank it's nice and smooth too. Would have no problem driving it in everyday traffic.

One very easy power upgrade would be to install a weber conversion kit - it's a simple bolt on kit:

http://www.jameng.com/products/Mercedes ... -DGAV.html

Going by the results of doing one of these conversions to a Finnie, it would give a handy power increase to a 230.4 and probably improve fuel consumption. Having said that, you won't get much better that 10-15 l/100. If you are really after economy, a diesel would be the best bet - but as Thomas has pointed out the 220 and 240D's are painfully slow with an Auto gearbox.
Thomas/David - thank you.

After reading David's post on 'people think I'm being polite',.... I think I'll stick with a petrol powered model.
1974 W114 280e

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Post by hennessy88 » Wed 30 Dec, 2015 12:31 pm

Hi All

Just wanted to introduce myself, have got some good info from these forums.

I have fallen in love with the 126 series over the last couple of years owning a 280SE which didn't bat an eyelid at a 200km+ daily commute for 6 months.

A few weeks ago I acquired an 86 560SEL in Diamond Blue with 265k km on the clock. Not without it's issues but with a bit of TLC should tidy up pretty well.
Plan to keep it long term as a weekend cruiser and road trip machine. My first V8 Benz, looking forward to the challenge.

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Post by CraigB » Wed 30 Dec, 2015 2:55 pm

Welcome Hennessy - nothing wrong with a 280 and i might be a little biased but there is something special about a 560 - don't use mine regularly anymore but every time i do it is pretty special. I have to say it.... too much at risk..... has the cam chain guide been changed? If no evidence it has, then just change it is my No. 1 tip.
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Post by hennessy88 » Wed 30 Dec, 2015 4:56 pm

Thanks Craig, previous owner couldn't tell me if guides had been done. But from looking at the service history it was in with the forum sponsor just over a year ago for a maintenance service. Rocker cover gaskets and cam oil line clips replaced etc. One would think it would have been highlighted then if the guides hadn't been replaced. I will need to confirm either way before I do any serious driving; as you said too much of a risk.
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Post by CraigB » Wed 30 Dec, 2015 7:15 pm

Yep i would give mbspares a call, they possibly remember the car and what they did and no harm in asking.
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Post by T-Modell » Wed 30 Dec, 2015 7:54 pm

MilSurp wrote:...
After reading David's post on 'people think I'm being polite',.... I think I'll stick with a petrol powered model.
David,
what have you done ... nobody ever will buy a Diesel in Australia after that post :laughing5:
Thomas
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1967 W111 250SE Cabriolet, horizon blue
1973 W115 220D 5.0 Pick-Up Argentina, work in progress 2017/18
1986 R107 500SL, arctic white, the midlife crisis viagra replacement
2007 R171 SLK350, calcit white
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Post by pastelgrey300D » Thu 31 Dec, 2015 10:35 am

David, what have you done ... nobody ever will buy a Diesel in Australia after that post :laughing5: Thomas
Oh well, just send all the unwanted diesels down here, I'll take care of them.

(My plan is working! More for me!)

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Post by SSAS » Thu 31 Dec, 2015 9:45 pm

Hello Everyone,
I am a NOOB but willing to learn and learn fast I do. :dontknow:
I have had a fixation for the Mercedes Marque since I was a young lad and now that I am no longer a young lad have decided to get on with the end goal of ownership.
I have lurked around here since mid November and Read,Read,and Read some more and I must say what a wealth of knowledge you people are so thank you so far and thanks in advance for future tips. The passion you people have, I feel is palpable in the threads I have read so far. Congratulations to all contributors.

What I have learned early on is to "Buy the Best example I can't afford"- :drool: SO-

1) Pagoda 230sl circa 1963 ( Can't afford one) :cussing:
2) Either a 450SL or 560SL- This is where I need the help. Which will be the better investment for my Kids to argue over ?

Feels good to be Underway! :dance:

Cheers Scott
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Post by CraigB » Fri 01 Jan, 2016 1:08 am

Welcome. Big difference in price and availability. The 560 is perhaps the ultimate form of that chassis, bigger, lighter more powerful alloy motor that also helps in handling dept with better weight balance, but i expect you could by multiples of 450's in similar condition. You would expect as 'the best' model and also not sure of production numbers but i expect much less, that the 560 will always be the most desirable. But 450 or 560, don't be fooled by pricetags because usually plenty of 'cheap' 450's with huge repair bills to get them up to condition. But pay good money for a good 450 or 350 and i am sure your kids will love it and it will still be in one piece for them to enjoy! Personally i have an early 350 and love the simplicity and more 'raw' fluid coupling 4 spd trans, but really not much between them except you will see the alloy motor cars (380,420,500,560) tend to fetch a premium. See what others say!
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Post by debourbon » Sun 03 Jan, 2016 11:17 am

Hi guys,

I have been infected by the W108 syndrome a few month ago, and bought a 1971 280se. I have spent the last few weeks detailing it inside out, she was in need of love. I will post pictures soon.

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Post by smileisthestyle » Sat 09 Jan, 2016 11:11 am

Hi All,

Love my w114 and hope to learn much from the forum!

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Post by Jasonjzx » Mon 11 Jan, 2016 11:52 pm

Hi,

I'm Jason and im looking at buying a w220 s500 later in the year... doesn't seem to be a lot of love for them here?

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Post by ansteadeh » Tue 12 Jan, 2016 6:57 am

Mate - probably a fantastic car to drive, but the depth of your pockets will be the reality of ownership.

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Post by CraigB » Tue 12 Jan, 2016 10:40 am

I don't know Jason, I hadn't noticed a lot of discussion on them - I just think there is more discussion on the older models and people don't have them. Newer stuff scares me a bit because i like to do my own work but these are after the biodegrading wire of the 90's and my understanding was the W140 to be the pinnacle of complication and that these for example don't have the same level of complication. I am sure they are a lovely car. The main thing i had heard on later s class was the suspension struts i think with limited life and crazy expensive to replace, but aftermarket simpler/better/stronger/cheaper is available from the US i believe. I saw some being fitted and nice looking units. Best of luck - and 'buying later in the year' does that mean you are buying a known car or decided this is definitely the model for you and will be looking. Known cars with known history is always worth a lot more in my opinion.
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Post by Jasonjzx » Tue 12 Jan, 2016 7:42 pm

Yeah i have been hearing the main issues with the w220 is the air suspension and some electrical issues caused by a drain blocking up. I am a little scared of potential issues but i'm in no hurry to buy (also have to save more $$ first) but with aftermarket stuff in the US and being a bit handy i think i should be able to manage.

Doing a lot of reading on the euro and us benz sites trying to anticipate any other issues.

Theres a real nice black 2004 s500 in vic at the moment but i dont quite have the funds yet. Dont see too many 04 05 s500s for sale either :(

Will definitely be a jump from the skylines i'm used to driving around.

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Post by CraigB » Wed 13 Jan, 2016 10:52 am

I imagine there are a lot more in the US and being 10+ yo , some of them being cared for by handy individuals working through problems. I agree not to be in a rush - advantages at that age i imagine is that there may well be good service record cars but also with them being 'older' and 'complicated' will scare a lot of people off and demand i imagine not huge - so puts you in a good bargaining position.
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Post by Betty_w123 » Sun 17 Jan, 2016 7:27 pm

Hi everyone.

Just a quick line to say the i'm the owner of a 1981 300TD which goes by the name Betty. My partner, the kids and I love to cruise about in her and many comments come our way. I remember that within a week of buying her we already had an offer to sell. We were at Philip Island and had parked outside a fish and chip shop. The owner saw us, rushed out and asked if we were interested in selling. As he had a ready supply of WVO he had being looking for months for a good 300TD and Betty fits the bill. We weren't interested :)

Anyhow this forum has already been a fantastic source of info on these cars. I'm working through the few minor issues such as the seemingly inevitable gremlins with the vacuum central locking having the odd leak but apart from that and needing the AC re gassed and compressor repaired its in good condition. I've work at lot with old Australian cars such as Valiant's as my father was into them and I was the passer of spanners and provider of hands to get behind the dash etc as a kid. Of course I complained bitterly at the time as to why I has to be out in the cold shed at night on the farm which dad worked on something needing another pair of hands but I guess the bug bit. Of course the W123 is a step up from a 70's valiant in engineering excellence and refinement! But I'm not afraid to get in a get my hands dirty and Betty doesn't look to have any particular mechanical complications or expensive black boxes to deal with.

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Adrian

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Post by TheMadRacoon » Sun 17 Jan, 2016 10:29 pm

My w114 was called Betty, too. I used to park her out on the street and I'd mis-heard the lyrics of a Ray Charles duet... " 'Baby' it's cold outside". So Betty she was.

Anyway, welcome to a great forum.
Emad,
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1988 190E Deep Blue (900) / Cream (2006, 190,000 km - 2007, ~ 215,000 km .... FSH and still spent big $$$)
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